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Oswald Chambers: A Cautionary Look at a Popular Devotional Teacher

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by asterisktom, Mar 7, 2010.

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  1. asterisktom

    asterisktom Well-Known Member
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    I believe the original article was 5 or 6 years old. I have since revised it at least twice.
     
    #21 asterisktom, Mar 9, 2010
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    The point here is....?

    Don't be oblique. Tell me.
     
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    I take it as proof, when one responds either with a snide or puerile manner, that no substantive, Scriptural answer could be found to my article.

    Literary immortality means nothing to me. Your snickering judgment of my motives means even less. What I want to be is faithful to the Lord who saved me and gave me (along with all believers) a charge to diligently search the scriptures and earnestly contend for the faith.
     
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  4. asterisktom

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    No, that is not what I am saying. I am not one of those "Just me and my Bible" Christians. We need pastors. But we need them to be faithful and reasonably accurate. We need authors too. But with the same standard.

    Oswald, as I have shown in the article - to which no one has given rebuttal - does not follow that pattern in the Bible.
     
    #24 asterisktom, Mar 9, 2010
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    When you find a church that has a perfect pastor don't join it.
     
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  6. asterisktom

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    I tire of your shoot-from-the-hip one-liners. Don't expect me to waste any more comments on you.
     
    #26 asterisktom, Mar 9, 2010
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    You have every right my friend to think whatever you want. Personally, I would not waste the time to offer substantive, Scriptural rebuttals. The subject is not a systematic theology work. To put it another way, I think you have too much free time on your hands.

    With all due respect, you remind me of the kid we all called "the brain" in sixth grade, the guy who always had the answer and ironed his homework papers before handing them in. Your the guy who was always correcting the teacher. Offering up critical comments on a classic work is really Tom, not your forte.
     
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  8. asterisktom

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    Gotta go to work. Hey - I do have a life.:smilewinkgrin:

    Parting comment: Don't call someone "friend" and "with all due respect" and then say such disrespectful, unfriendly things. Don't be phony.
     
    #28 asterisktom, Mar 10, 2010
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    Here is a nother one liner from the Bible.

    "A rebuke goes deeper into one who has understanding than a hundred blows into a fool."
     
    #29 gb93433, Mar 10, 2010
  10. asterisktom

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    Matthew 5:22
     
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    Your point is . . . ?
     
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    You're going to hell. :D
     
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    No, that was not my point.
     
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    Explain what hell is.
     
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    I believe Tom is interested in showing off his so-called literary skills by attacking various authors. Nothing is as anoying as one who toots their own horn continually.
     
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    If that was truly my motive, then, as Christ warned the Pharisees in a similar situation (according to you, I suppose) I have my reward in full.
     
    #36 asterisktom, Mar 10, 2010
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    So is Chambers ok to read or not?
     
    #37 Thinkingstuff, Mar 11, 2010
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    My very, very, very good friend tom, I'm going to give you a pass on this one and not be offended. Why you ask? Because I'm a nice, friendly and humble person. Ask any of my family and friends, they will tell you. And also because I have nothing but respect your position and your ministry, really.

    But I still think you have too much free time on your hands. Does that make me a bad person?

    Have a nice day tom.
     
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    Personally, I would not waste my time on him. Among devotional writers you can do so much better with, say, Spurgeon's Morning and Evening.
     
    #39 asterisktom, Mar 11, 2010
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    Tom,

    Thanks for being brave enough to write this. I see that you received quite a bit of backlash from this post. Let me say that I thank you for it. What you wrote articulate what I was feeling for some time. Mainly, that I spent years dealing with self condemnation. Oswald's writings showed me that I needed to pull myself up to God's standards. Something I have only recently accepted I could never do. But thanks be to God, Christ did it for me, and I have a new found love for my savior instead of anger towards God because I could never live up to the Law or to Oswald Chambers. My hope is in Jesus death, burial, and resurection as my own basis for making me right with God (1 Corinthians 1:30). Thanks Tom, I'm with you.
     
    #40 Justin Haldeman, Aug 30, 2018
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