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Our view: Alabama voters must reject Roy Moore; we endorse Doug Jones for U.S. Senate

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TCassidy

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That is libertarian nonsense, just like claiming taxes are theft like a lot of libertarians do.
I am a Libertarian. Most taxes are voluntary, the price we pay to live in this country. But some taxes are theft. We are waging a war here in Texas right now with property tax increases that are taxing many people on low or limited incomes right out of their own homes.
 

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Being pro-choice does not equal being “pro-abortion(baby murder)”.

Abortion being legal does not require a single
abortion to take place.

The legality of abortion sets in the minds of the people that somehow it is no big deal and thus abortions do take place. All in all, life is cheapened and a death culture takes hold. At one time in this nation, mothers would gladly die so that their baby can live and sadly that is no longer the case.

You know, if the desire to legalize this procedure had been due a groundswell of public opinion and the people's representatives had been convinced to vote for it's legality, that would have been one thing. But no, this was shoved down the people's throats by the judiciary as a "constitutional right", when in realty there is no such right mentioned anywhere in the Federal compact.

And don't give me that "privacy" argument either, as the government can legally tell us what we can and cannot do to ourselves in all manner of instances. The legalization of the killing of unborn human babies belonged in the political process, not the courts.
 
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KenH

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I am opposed to property taxes except on business property. I much prefer income taxes.
 

TCassidy

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The dominant libertarian position is that the government should stay out of it - neither fund it nor ban it.
Not quite. The predominant Libertarian position is that the FEDERAL government should stay out of it. It is a States Rights issue. Let the people of the states decide and let the rest vote with their feet.

Politically, the abortion issue is much more nuanced than the far left and far right try to make it.
I agree. I believe abortion on demand for any reason except the health of the mother is murder. But I make exceptions for protecting the physical health of the mother. But I cannot force my beliefs on others. Let each state decide where they want to stand.

That is one of the reasons I left California and came to Texas. I have much more liberty in Texas than in California, and it costs about 1/2 as much to live here. My real estate taxes in California, even with proposition 13 and homesteading, were still around $2,000 per year. Here in Texas my total real estate taxes are $53 per year. (I get a homestead exemption, a veterans exemption, and both my wife and I are over 65 so we get a senior exemption.)

The Libertarian position is really quite simple. We plan to take over the government and leave you alone. :D
 

KenH

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The Libertarian position is really quite simple. We plan to take over the government and leave you alone.

I am aware. I ran as Libertarian for Congress in 2014 and was in a televised staewide debate. Received 4% of the vote.

As I told a friend a few months ago I am a recovering libertarian. :)
 

KenH

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Taxes are theft when the monies collected are used for things not mentioned in the Constitution as a Federal government responsibility.

Just follow God’s command and pay your taxes. He does not memtion anything about an interpretation of a man-created constitution.
 

KenH

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Quite the misuse of scripture

“Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.” - Romans‬ ‭13:7‬ ‭ESV‬‬
 
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I live in Alabama and will vote for Roy Moore or which ever Republican runs but never for any baby murdering democrat.

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777

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Oh, those three Alabama papers are all ran by some lesbian, they hate Roy Moore over there for what he has done. Look at their big ace reporter's tweet:

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they really seemed desperate in that op/ed to me. Not really my problem, Alabama is on the other side of the country but it's hilarious that they are trying to palm Doug Jones off as a moderate Democrat:

The Voter's Self Defense System

on abortion, he's claimed he's only pro-life after the baby is born and is having trouble walking that back.

According to the Alabama Political Reporter, Jones described himself as “a Second Amendment guy,” but stressed that some gun control is necessary. He said, “We’ve got limitations on all constitutional amendments in one form or another.” This position is contrary to the clear language of the amendment, which states that the right to keep and bear arms “shall not be infringed.”

some moderate
 

KenH

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some moderate

Well, we have, effectively, a two party system in this country and Roy Moore is on the far right. By comparison, Doug Jones is a moderate and I was quite willing to donate to his campaign when the news about Moore came out.
 

777

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Well, we have, effectively, a two party system in this country and Roy Moore is on the far right. By comparison, Doug Jones is a moderate and I was quite willing to donate to his campaign when the news about Moore came out.

No, Moore is on the far right while Doug is in the mainstream of the Democratic Party, which is the far left. This rag of a newspaper is right with Doug Jones. Easy to argue RINOs like McConnell the center in this scenario. By the way, you wasted your money.
 
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