Outrageous! You WILL be offended!

This is a local story here in Cleveland. The woman was detained AFTER SHE was assaulted. She gave the police her deceased sister's drivers license that she keeps in her wallet as a memorial by mistake (due to the situation) and that is when things spiraled out of control. You can CLEARLY see her on the video asking the police "why are you doing this?"

Please have some kind of understanding before making outrageous comments :BangHead:

 

Did you watch the video? This woman was stripped naked by men. Funny the filmed everything but their request to change clothes isn't it? Still men stripping women is not right. Then theres the fact they wanted her to wear their clothes, why didn't they give her any to wear?
She didn't say she was suicidal.
If they did this to your wife, after she was assaulted and they were called to protect her, I'm sure you'd have a different opinion of her being attacked by men who stripped her and left her naked for 6 hours.
Their illegal activity is on tape, it can not be denied, and there is no excuse for men stripping a woman as you have suggested.

 

I both read the little story and watched the entire video before I posted. It is certainly unfortunate that she went from being the victim of an assault to rough treatment in jail. But my point still stands: which is more likely to cause authorities to treat you more humanely, calm and reason or kicking and screaming? She didn't "ask" the police much of anything, she screamed things, like many drunk people do at the police, and resisted by kicking and squirming. We do not have the right to resist the police when we feel they have arrested us unjustly. Nearly everyone arrested feels it is unjust.

Nevertheless... In the video, there is a stripping, which she resisted with screams and kicks. The video shows no search. I wonder if there were not enough female officers available for them to feel she was "in control" to do the search safely. However, once the woman was securely handcuffed, the (at least one) female officer present should have been able to continue on her own if needed.

I do not know if it is against a law for male officers to strip search a woman, as others have claimed here. If it is, this is close enough imo, though there didn't seem to be much searching, only stripping. There should be an investigation and it should include the evidence edited out of this video.

It is probably good that some of you are willing to give her millions of your tax dollars, as that appears to be where this is headed.

 

It is illegal. Also, it doesn't matter if she was calm. She's 125lbs. If one officer couldn't control her without help he needs to be fired.

More bad cop news.

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You mean "she" should be fired, correct?

 

If I were being held down and stripped by men I'd be kicking and screaming too.

 

That's the problem. These cops along with their chief should be fired immediately!

Unfortunately, this behavior among cops is far to frequent than is reported. Too many of them act like they are above the law.

 

I no longer give police the benefit of the doubt.

Some of you here know that about two years ago, I was assaulted and severely beaten, requiring a brief stay in the hospital and physical theraphy and PTSD counseling.

The New Castle County (Del) Police were so incompetent and corrupt (one of the officers actually perjured himself on the stand, claiming that one of my witnesses never came forward, even though the initial report shows that he did) that I will never look at the police the same way again.

 

And if these men were law enforcement officers, you'd likely end up in jail like this woman did.

In this case, she was already in jail, and at least one woman was present. Personally, I think with her cuffed, the men didn't need to be there, but kicking and screaming only encourages them to stay and hold her down.

Police are taught what soldiers are, that protecting your brothers/sisters is priority one. I'm sure it can be very hard for male officers to step away from a struggling, kicking inmate/detainee and leave a lone female officer to handle the situation, even if the detainee is female. You also see this on the street where, if a suspect struggles with a female officer, any male officers present often act very quickly and harshly, protectively, moreso than they would with another male officer.

 

These news stories keep showing up more and more.

 

Then they should not have taken her clothes off until there were enough women. There is no excuse for this.

 

I would not give police the benefit of the doubt, not at all. Not with drug dealing and pimping going on by cops, among other illegal activity.

 

This woman was already in jail when she was forceably stripped by men. There is no excuse for this, and your trying to create one is disgusting.
What if it were your wife that men decided to strip down, or your mother, or daughter? Is it still alright? There is no excuse for men forceably stripping down women.

 

Exactly. It doesn't matter what she did, she deserves to be treated humanely.

 

what was this woman suspect of? I mean she was a victim, who was forcibly striped by men. they called the police to get help, and what they got instead was forcibly stripped. So much for getting help from those paid to protect us.

 

Those WE PAY to protect us!

 

Whenever possible I give law enforcement officers the benefit of the doubt. They have a very difficult job to do. But these guys seem way out of line.

Now I do not think this is a strip search at all. A good friend of mine works at our local jail and every incoming individual is strip searched during in processing to include a full body cavity search. The article specifically mentions that there was no penetration of the woman. You can’t do the body cavity search without that. Now there are a lot of rules that go along with that including the same sex provision (although we have had several jailers come out of the closet over the years). I do not think this was a strip search but instead the corrections officers trying to control what they considered to be an unruly inmate.

That being said it is clear that there were policy violations. This should be investigated and people should be fired. Others should be reprimanded and policies need to be reviewed and implemented. The county should be held accountable and heads should roll. BUT, this woman did not win the lottery. She is still a convicted criminal (yes she was convicted). She is a victim even if she is not an innocent victim. The county owes her an apology and should take steps to ensure this does not happen again. But I do not understand why they should owe her a dime in monetary compensation. Who is going to pay that money anyway? It won’t be the corrections officers. It will be the taxpayers of the county.

 

If we don't fight for civil liberties now when will we ever? If a "strip search" was necessary (I understand you dispute the term):

1) It shouldn't have been six hours.

2) Men shouldn't have been involved.

3) Her screams of "What are you doing to me?" should have been answered.

4) If the police want the benefit of the doubt then they OWE the public details which they've thus far withheld. I for one am sick and tired of brute force coupled with secrecy. That's a dangerous combination for democracy. We're not animals, we're not statistics, and we're not mindless plebians who are naturally indebted to the powers-that-be to both beg and thank them for any details that they feel generous enough to volunteer.

 

Which means more benefits of the doubt should be given for police!