Overcoming

[Martin Marprelate]

That brings me to Murray. I’m familiar with his argument, but notice what he’s doing: he is not showing limiting language in verse 9. He is inferring a limitation from verses 10–13.

He's not 'inferring' anything. He's showing the meaning from the context, which, frankly, is pretty obvious..

 

[Ascetic X]

Try not to be silly.
What possible possible help is it to tell someone that the Lord Jesus died for everyone's sins? What possible encouragement is that to anybody to repent?

Silly? This is your view of contrasting Jesus dying for everyone vs. Jesus dying only for the elect?

Jesus dying for everyone’s sins is the classic message of evangelism. What possible encouragement is it to lead a person to repent? It should be a huge encouragement to any sinner. But you were not receptive to the gospel message at that time. You had to be scared of God’s wrath first, as you stated.

What possible encouragement is it to say, Calvinistically, “If you accept Jesus as Lord, then He died for your sins. But if you reject Jesus as Lord, then He did not die for your sins” —???

This actually is the Calvinist theology. It states the Doctrine of Limited Grace — that Jesus died only for the elect.

When I was an unsaved youngster at University, members of the Christian Union were always diligent to tell me that Jesus really loved me and died for my sins. I was always happy to hear it, but it never made me want to become a Christian.

Your heart was hardened against the blessed truth that Jesus died for your sins, but thank God, you eventually accepted the gospel message.

Perhaps the death of Jesus for the sins of humanity is just a remote, abstract concept to some people.

Even the threat of God’s wrath and eternal torment in hell can be brushed aside by unbelievers.

It was not until about 20 years later that I came to understand that I was a sinner, justly under the wrath of God and repented and trusted in Christ as a drowning man in a stormy sea might put his trust in a lifebelt thrown to him.

The Scriptures say that Christ died for sinners. Romans 4:25 & 5:6ff come to mind instantly,

Yes, scripture says Christ died for sinners, all of them, with no exception. So that whoever will, may come.


1 John 2:2

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.