P.O.D. GUITARIST IS REPLACED.

[TheOliveBranch]

And what about their promotion of the Trinity? Can't say it's because of the three in the group, so is it because they believe in the body, soul, mind? Earth, wind, fire? Or some kind of Satanic trinity?

Is what Curiel said an actual quote? He is obviously bothered by mixing the two, the life in the music world, and the life serving Christ. He obviously recognises the two don't mix. Or do you think that he has just had his mind clouded (no pun) by some religious Bible teacher? Seems he made a decision, no matter what the press says. I can see the secular media telling the whole truth about his decision

 

[Jacob]

I read the whole article and I think POD did the right thing. They fired the backsliding member. Good for them.

Jacob.

 

[Aaron]

Originally posted by Mike McK:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by TheOliveBranch:
We agree that they are not a christian band. Very remote. Very little. But an agreement, nonetheless

No. I said that they weren't a Christian band, "Christian band" being a marketing category.

You disparaged their walk with Christ based on, among other things, something as petty as the way they look.

The two are in no way the same.

Thanks, Mike. You are once again showing your christian love toward me.

What did I say that wasn't true? </font>[/QUOTE]Mike, you're splitting hairs.

 

[Mike McK]

Originally posted by Aaron:
Mike, you're splitting hairs.

Not at all, Aaron.

I said that they didn't fit into a specific marketing category. He was diparaging their walk with Christ based on their appearance.

The two are very, very different.

 

[Timmy]

Originally posted by Mike McK:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Timmy:
From what I read in your posts, it seems you have something against David Cloud...why all this hatred?

I don't hate the man, I just think he's a jerk who will use any petty little excuse he can find to condemn somebody else just to prop himself up. </font>[/QUOTE]Excuse me but I don't think we should call one another "jerks"...it's not Christian

 

[Timmy]

Originally posted by Jacob:
I read the whole article and I think POD did the right thing. They fired the backsliding member. Good for them.

Jacob.

Jacob, POD itself is not a good thing.

 

[Mike McK]

Originally posted by Timmy:
Excuse me but I don't think we should call one another "jerks"...it's not Christian

He is a jerk.

 

[Mike McK]

Originally posted by Timmy:
Jacob, POD itself is not a good thing.

Why not?

 

[Preacher Nathan Knight]

There is an interesting article about POD at www.av1611.org Yall should read it.

 

[Mike McK]

Originally posted by Preacher Nathan Knight:
There is an interesting article about POD at www.av1611.org Yall should read it.

LOL...

 

[TheOliveBranch]

PNK, Good article.

Mike, Are you completely closed to any opposing view? You shut your brain when someone tells a truth. There is alot of good points and also fact in that website. Or did you just read "av1611" and laugh.

You said, "I said that they didn't fit into a specific marketing category. He was diparaging their walk with Christ based on their appearance."

We agreed that they were not a "christian" band. We may have come to that same conclusion thru different opinions, but it was still the same conclusion. And I am going to assume that the "He" was a typo.

 

[Rev. Joshua]

Originally posted by TheOliveBranch:
...Or did you just read "av1611" and laugh...

You have to admit, it's pretty hard for the vast majority of Christians to take the KJVO crowd seriously.

Joshua

 

[TheOliveBranch]

And you too, Rev Joshua, will look at the title, and form opinion before reading it. Shame for a Preacher to be biased.

 

[Mike McK]

Originally posted by Rev. Joshua:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by TheOliveBranch:
...Or did you just read "av1611" and laugh...

You have to admit, it's pretty hard for the vast majority of Christians to take the KJVO crowd seriously.</font>[/QUOTE]My problem's not with the KJVO crowd, much as I disagree with them. I just can't take seriously anything that comes from the whackos at av1611.com.

 

[Su Wei]

point of clarification: the link to the mtv article was pasted there by me to show that Cloud wasn't misquoting anyone.

 

[Su Wei]

Originally posted by Rev. Joshua:
You have to admit, it's pretty hard for the vast majority of Christians to take the KJVO crowd seriously.

Joshua

might does not mean right!

 

[JonathanDT]

Originally posted by Preacher Nathan Knight:
There is an interesting article about POD at http://www.av1611.org/ Yall should read it.

TOB: Yes, we DO just read "av1611.com" and laugh, because we are well acquainted with that website. "You'll never find a more retched hive of scum and villainy" Ok, maybe not THAT, but it's still pretty ugly.

As for all these questions about their triquestra symbol, being a "Christian" band, ect...please go find the 11 page post on it. If you still have something to say after reading that fine, but I think it would answer a lot of questions on exactly what POD is, if you'll listen honestly.

[Zapped questionable link. Aaron.]

[ April 01, 2003, 04:23 PM: Message edited by: Aaron ]

 

[Bro. Curtis]

From that article....

They LOVE rock music more than they LOVE the Lord Jesus!

Their attitude is – "I don’t care if these CCM rock stars PERVERT and LIE about the Lord Jesus – but don’t you dare say nothing negative about my rock stars, like P.O.D.!"

That’s the doctrine of the average CCM rocker.

How many CCM listeners did they interview for this statement ? Where are the numbers, ages, and mental capacity of the interviewees kept so we can see for ourselves what the "average" CCMer thinks.

Also, they come pretty close to calling the NKJV a work of Satan.

Now I don't like P.O.D. and hardly think that they are good musically, or doctrinally.
But I don't think av1611.org is a good site to get information from. (Did I end that in a prepostion ? I'm a grammar flop)

I also don't agree with David Cloud on everything, but I have met the man, and spent time with him. To see him called a jerk kinda hurts. I really wish you wouldn't do it, Mike. I respect your opinion, but maybe you could be more specific in what you don't like about him. (I edited this post like 5 times, 'cuz I really don't mean to offend you, but it really does bother me.)BTW, I see you (I think) at the www.hannity.com blogspot. You do some nice stuff there. Good to see you.

[ March 28, 2003, 02:13 AM: Message edited by: Bro. Curtis ]

 

[TheOliveBranch]

Jonathan,

I did a search for the topic you are quoting from, and cannot find it. Could you please provide a link?

 

[TheOliveBranch]

Jonathan
I think you are wrong about the av1611 website. They are a minstry, giving the people truth. That link you have provided for the church in Iowa is really off base. Why do you feel you have to degrade a positive ministry with something that has no bearing on them? They are a ministry helping people that have really made some bad choices in life, and want to know the truth. That place in Iowa could care less about them.