Palin Is Right

[alatide]

This is reality.

The bill will ration medical care which itself constitutes a death panel cutting Medicare by $500 billion over the next 10 years. That will require that some bureaucrat approve or disapprove a procedure essential to preserve life. The biggest cuts are for cardiologists and oncologists, the doctors most needed by the elderly. These doctors are already underpaid.

When did you make this up? Or do you have a legitimate source?

 

[Aaron]

Yoo hoo! alatide (or JC, or Freedom, or whoever are/were)!

Look at post #70 and answer the question please.

 

[Winman]

To me, the most dangerous part of the bill was this section.

(iii) A program for orders for life sustaining treatment for a States described in this clause is a program that ‘‘

(I) ensures such orders are standardized and uniquely identifiable throughout the State; ‘‘

(II) distributes or makes accessible such orders to physicians and other health professionals that (acting within the scope of the professional’s authority under State law) may sign orders for life sustaining treatment; ‘‘

(III) provides training for health care professionals across the continuum of care about the goals and use of orders for life sustaining treatment; and ‘‘

(IV) is guided by a coalition of stakeholders includes representatives from emergency medical services, emergency department physicians or nurses, state long-term care association, state medical association, state surveyors, agency responsible for senior services, state department of health, state hospital association, home health association, state bar association, and state hospice association. ‘‘

I am especially suspicious of section III where it speaks of training health care professionals about the "goals and use of orders for life sustaining treatment".

And then you read section IV and it says the training will be "guided by a coalition of stakeholders". And notice who the stakeholders are.

Well, what do you think their goals will be? I imagine their goals will to make as much profit as possible. Or to insure as small a loss as possible.

So, think about that. You may be admitted for a health issue. The doctors have the technology to keep you alive, perhaps for many years, but the treatment will be expensive.

But these doctors are going to be trained to conserve as much as possible. They might actually be trained to convince a person that they should end their life, even though the person might be kept alive for some time.

Perhaps I am wrong, but I would not bet that the guidance of those in section IV will be concerned about me or my family, but more concerned about limiting loss or expense.

 

[OldRegular]

To me, the most dangerous part of the bill was this section.



I am especially suspicious of section III where it speaks of training health care professionals about the "goals and use of orders for life sustaining treatment".

And then you read section IV and it says the training will be "guided by a coalition of stakeholders". And notice who the stakeholders are.

Well, what do you think their goals will be? I imagine their goals will to make as much profit as possible. Or to insure as small a loss as possible.

So, think about that. You may be admitted for a health issue. The doctors have the technology to keep you alive, perhaps for many years, but the treatment will be expensive.

But these doctors are going to be trained to conserve as much as possible. They might actually be trained to convince a person that they should end their life, even though the person might be kept alive for some time.

Perhaps I am wrong, but I would not bet that the guidance of those in section IV will be concerned about me or my family, but more concerned about limiting loss or expense.

Section IV sounds an awful lot like a death board!

a coalition of stakeholders includes representatives from emergency medical services, emergency department physicians or nurses, state long-term care association, state medical association, state surveyors, agency responsible for senior services, state department of health, state hospital association, home health association, state bar association, and state hospice association.

All they need is someone from the state undertakers association.