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PARIS BURNS: Riot police fire tear gas as 30,000 protestors

church mouse guy

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Meaning he learned absolutely nothing.

Do you think that France will eventually pull out of the Paris Accords? BTW, electric cars use more energy than gasoline cars and depend entirely on government subsidy, which really gets ridiculous if you are going to have an entire nation of electric cars.
 

carpro

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Do you think that France will eventually pull out of the Paris Accords? .

Never. Don't forget it's all about money. France needs the money to fund their nanny state. Most of the proposed tax will NOT be used to benefit the environment.
 

church mouse guy

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Never. Don't forget it's all about money. France needs the money to fund their nanny state. Most of the proposed tax will NOT be used to benefit the environment.

Well, they have all these jihadist immigrants who don't want to work and don't want to assimilate because they think that non-Muslims are non-humans, so the money has to go to feed the jihadists.
 

David Kent

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What is a headlight adapter?

It is an adhesive plastic strip that deflects your lights from the side they usually shine to the other side, For instance, the Continentals drive in the right hand side of the road and their dipped beam shines the the right,we dfrive on the left and ours shines to the left. The adapters correcty that.
 

church mouse guy

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It is an adhesive plastic strip that deflects your lights from the side they usually shine to the other side, For instance, the Continentals drive in the right hand side of the road and their dipped beam shines the the right,we dfrive on the left and ours shines to the left. The adapters correcty that.

Thank you! I never heard about all that. It's just one thing after another isn't it?
 

777

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He has delayed it for six months.

it seems like this is changing by the minute:

France's Government has abandoned a fuel-tax hike that it previously said it had only suspended for six months, in the face of protests across the country over living costs.

France ditches fuel-tax hikes, dangles wealth-tax review as more pledge to join protests

I actually think it was rather elitist of Macron to say "well, now, just dump the diesels", it's not that easy for everyone. What are your thoughts about what transpired there? In a way, it's good to see the citizens stand up to the big government, but mob rule won the day, and that's disconcerting to me in another way.
 

carpro

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it seems like this is changing by the minute:



France ditches fuel-tax hikes, dangles wealth-tax review as more pledge to join protests

I actually think it was rather elitist of Macron to say "well, now, just dump the diesels", it's not that easy for everyone. What are your thoughts about what transpired there? In a way, it's good to see the citizens stand up to the big government, but mob rule won the day, and that's disconcerting to me in another way.

They wanted a nanny state and they got it. Now it's time to pay the bill, so they riot.

It's a preview of what's coming here. It may start in California, but more likely a rust belt state. Pick one.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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It is not overzealous enviromental concerns, that caused the tax rises. In the past the French goverment encouraged diesel cars by giving them lower tax than petrol, as it gave more miles per gallon or km per litre. So most French cars are diesel. However diesel gives much more polution with soot and and other particulates. Causing major heath problems in big cities with many deaths.So the price of diesel was hiked to encourage people to change. LPG (In France GPL) is much cheaper. I have also seen charging points for electric cars in a hypermarket car park there which I have not seen in any of our supermarkets.
But why did the French government and most of Europe encourage the mass of diesel cars? The “clean diesel” scam in the article below seems to contradict you, and shows that scientists and politicians cannot be trusted outright, despite condescending claims to the contrary. It’s rather like trusting “a woman and her doctor” about abortion—not so safe for the unborn.

The death of diesel: has the one-time wonder fuel become the new asbestos?

From the article:

As recently as last week, David King, the UK government’s former chief scientific adviser on climate change, admitted ministers had made a huge mistake by promoting diesel. They had trusted the car industry when it said the fuel was clean. “It turns out we were wrong,” he said.​

Notice King’s connection with climate change. He blames the diesel scam on the car industry, but only reveals his own immense incompetence.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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it seems like this is changing by the minute:

France ditches fuel-tax hikes, dangles wealth-tax review as more pledge to join protests

I actually think it was rather elitist of Macron to say "well, now, just dump the diesels", it's not that easy for everyone. What are your thoughts about what transpired there? In a way, it's good to see the citizens stand up to the big government, but mob rule won the day, and that's disconcerting to me in another way.
Their democracy started as mob rule, didn’t it, and brutally so? They may want to bring back the guillotine for this and other things that have been perpetrated on them of late.
 

HankD

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As did the USA. They both rebelled against the king.
In America's case it WAS NOT against the king but the tyranny of the king.

Yes America has sins all nations like people have sinned.

However the American Revolution was against tyranny.
 

church mouse guy

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They wanted a nanny state and they got it. Now it's time to pay the bill, so they riot.

It's a preview of what's coming here. It may start in California, but more likely a rust belt state. Pick one.

Why do you say rust belt? Indiana is rust belt and we are like Okies from Muskogee.
 

church mouse guy

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Unfunded pension plans were on my mind.

Oh, yeah. Illinois takes the cake. The stories of corruption are worthy of Washington DC. I was going to post one of them the other day about a guy who is making 200K as a school superintendent of a district around Joliet that has 100 students who are below average in spite of eleven teachers. Think of the unfunded pension liability there. Indiana does not have a penny to pay their teachers retirements.
 

David Kent

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In America's case it WAS NOT against the king but the tyranny of the king.

Yes America has sins all nations like people have sinned.

However the American Revolution was against tyranny.

Not so tyranical as the French king.

You just didn't like his laws, just as the French don't like the laws as their present govt.

The French PM blames the far right for taking over the protest, but there were two people on the news this evening, one said they were from the far right and the other from the far left who said "We are united in this. But after this?"
 
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