Passing from one room to another

[Crabtownboy]

Death is no more than passing from one room into another. But there's a difference for me, you know. Because in that other room I shall be able to see.

Helen Keller.

 

[Salty]

But what is important is which room you pass into.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I bet she can see all too clearly now, too.

So let's tell our unsaved friends, hell's just a "room".

 

[Salty]

I bet she can see all too clearly now, too.

So let's tell our unsaved friends, hell's just a "room".

Fletcher Brothers, Director of Freedom Village has stated on the Radio (if I remember correctly) that he has met Mrs Thatcher and that he believes she was born again

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I thought this was about Helen Keller...someone who found the bible "reprehensible".

 

[Salty]

I thought this was about Helen Keller...".

Ten lashes with a wet noodle - I dont know what I was thinking..:tonofbricks:

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I'm thinking if Marge was saved, she's gettin' a mansion. Not some crummy little room. And that's reason to rejoice.

I'm also thinking, if we go by Helen Keller's own words, (readily available), she's probably in her "room" wishing she was still deaf and blind.

 

[Crabtownboy]

I thought this was about Helen Keller...someone who found the bible "reprehensible".

Source please.

You do find a way of condemning just about everyone.

Helen Keller also said:

“Unless we form the habit of going to the Bible in bright moments as well as in trouble, we cannot fully respond to its consolations because we lack equilibrium between light and darkness.”

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/there_is_much_in_the_bible_against_which_every/296070.html

She also said:

“I believe that God is in me as the sun is in the colour and fragrance of a flower - the Light in my darkness, the Voice in my silence.”

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/58132-i-believe-that-god-is-in-me-as-the-sun

And

“I thank God for my handicaps, for, through them, I have found myself, my work, and my God”

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/i_thank_god_for_my_handicaps-for-through_them-i/172686.html

By the way, I have searched and I cannot find any quote from M. Thatcher on the Bible, Christ or God.

I did find this quote:

Methodism is the most marvelous evangelical faith and there is the most marvelous love and feeling for music in the Methodist Church which I think is greater than in the Anglican Church. But you sometimes feel the need for a slightly more formal service and perhaps a little bit more formality in the underlying theology too. So throughout my life I have felt the need for both things, to some extent for the informality, for the works you do; but always I found myself groping out for more of the actual teaching of the religious basis.

http://hollowverse.com/margaret-thatcher/

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Source please.

:

But how shall I speak of the glories I have since discovered in the Bible? For years I have read it with an ever-broadening sense of joy and inspiration; and I love it as I love no other book. Still there is much in the Bible against which every instinct of my being rebels, so much that I regret the necessity which has compelled me to read it through from beginning to end. I do not think that the knowledge which I have gained of its history and sources compensates me for the unpleasant details it has forced upon my attention. For my part, I wish, with Mr. Howells, that the literature of the past might be purged of all that is ugly and barbarous in it, although I should object as much as any one to having these great works weakened or falsified.
-- Helen Keller

 

[Crabtownboy]

But how shall I speak of the glories I have since discovered in the Bible? For years I have read it with an ever-broadening sense of joy and inspiration; and I love it as I love no other book. Still there is much in the Bible against which every instinct of my being rebels, so much that I regret the necessity which has compelled me to read it through from beginning to end. I do not think that the knowledge which I have gained of its history and sources compensates me for the unpleasant details it has forced upon my attention. For my part, I wish, with Mr. Howells, that the literature of the past might be purged of all that is ugly and barbarous in it, although I should object as much as any one to having these great works weakened or falsified.
-- Helen Keller

The word reprehensible is not to be found in the quote you furnished.

And you failed to include the positive sentence in the quote, which reads:

For years I have read it with an ever-broadening sense of joy and inspiration; and I love it as I love no other book.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

So what ? She obviously hated it. Maybe you don't understand her own words.

Is death merely "passing from one room to the other", or is a result of the wages of sin, with eternal consequence most dire ? You started this thread, why won't you talk about it ?

Is it OK with you that people are going to Hell, as long as you make them feel good about themselves along the way ? Is that "love" ?

Shame on you for your either purposeful, or ignorant deception of what happens when we die.

Hebrews 9:27 AMEN !!! That's the message we should be concentrating on. Not some fluffy steer manure post about death being just another "room".

 

[Crabtownboy]

So what ? She obviously hated it. Maybe you don't understand her own words.

Obviously you do not understand. She said:

For years I have read it with an ever-broadening sense of joy and inspiration; and I love it as I love no other book.

Note she says LOVE not hate.


Is death merely "passing from one room to the other", or is a result of the wages of sin, with eternal consequence most dire ? You started this thread, why won't you talk about it ?

Shame on you for your either purposeful, or ignorant deception of what happens when we die.

You really cannot read and understand can you. Have you ever heard of literary metaphors?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Obviously you do not understand. She said:



Note she says LOVE not hate.


Is death merely "passing from one room to the other", or is a result of the wages of sin, with eternal consequence most dire ? You started this thread, why won't you talk about it ?




You really cannot read and understand can you. Have you ever heard of literary metaphors?

First of all, please learn to use the quote function properly. It looks like you're claming my words as your's.

I read and understand plenty well. Helen keller was disgusted with the bible, and only respected it as a historical document.

Literary metaphors ? That's what denying scripture is called now ?

I am deeply saddened by your casual dismissal of the wages of sin. You scare me, in a biblical sense. You seem to have zero concern for the unsaved.

 

[Crabtownboy]

First of all, please learn to use the quote function properly. It looks like you're claming my words as your's.

I would never use your words as mine.

I read and understand plenty well. Helen keller was disgusted with the bible, and only respected it as a historical document.

People do not love historical documents. Your opinion only on that one.

Literary metaphors ? That's what denying scripture is called now ?

Jesus used metaphors. Do you know what a metaphor is? Your reply indicates you do not.

Do you know what a simile is?
Do you know what an illusion is?

I am deeply saddened by your casual dismissal of the wages of sin. You scare me, in a biblical sense. You seem to have zero concern for the unsaved.

I am deeply saddened by your casual negative judgement of just about everyone.

Do you really believe that she literally mean death was passing from one room to another?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I would never use your words as mine.



People do not love historical documents. Your opinion only on that one.



Jesus used metaphors. Do you know what a metaphor is? Your reply indicates you do not.

Do you know what a simile is?
Do you know what an illusion is?



I am deeply saddened by your casual negative judgement of just about everyone.

Do you really believe that she literally mean death was passing from one room to another?

1-Good. Learn to us the quote function.

2-The Bible is so much more than a historical document. Even you would agree.

3-Jesus never lied to anyone. Shame on you.

4-Similie ? Illusion ? What do they have to do with anything ?

4-Straw man. I'm not judging her. I'm telling you her fluffy quotes do damage to a Christian testimony.

5-Yes, I do. And if she didn't, why would you put it up here ? Part of the "There's no God who will punish you" mentality. Extremely dangerous.

 

[Crabtownboy]

The Bible is so much more than a historical document. Even you would agree.

You are the one who brought in "historic document," not me, and she would agree with you. She said she loved the Bible. But you, conveniently, ignore that as you again simply want to tear down.

Jesus never lied to anyone. Shame on you.

Where did you get that? Are you having hallucinations?

Similie ? Illusion ? What do they have to do with anything ?

Your reply simply is an admission of ignorance. No wonder you do not believe Christ used metaphors.

Straw man. I'm not judging her. I'm telling you her fluffy quotes do damage to a Christian testimony.

Figured you would not answer. Do you believe, as you indicated, that she thought death was simply passing from one room to another?

Yes, I do. And if she didn't, why would you put it up here ? Part of the "There's no God who will punish you" mentality. Extremely dangerous.

Don't believe she or I said that God does not punish people. Again you are dreaming up things just to be contrary. Remember my reply to you about eternal punishment ... and you apologized?

Instead of always tearing down, why don't you try to build up?

 

[Revmitchell]

1-Good. Learn to us the quote function.

2-The Bible is so much more than a historical document. Even you would agree.

3-Jesus never lied to anyone. Shame on you.

4-Similie ? Illusion ? What do they have to do with anything ?

4-Straw man. I'm not judging her. I'm telling you her fluffy quotes do damage to a Christian testimony.

5-Yes, I do. And if she didn't, why would you put it up here ? Part of the "There's no God who will punish you" mentality. Extremely dangerous.

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[Bro. Curtis]

You are the one who brought in "historic document," not me, and she would agree with you. She said she loved the Bible. But you, conveniently, ignore that as you again simply want to tear down.



Where did you get that? Are you having hallucinations?



Your reply simply is an admission of ignorance. No wonder you do not believe Christ used metaphors.



Figured you would not answer. Do you believe, as you indicated, that she thought death was simply passing from one room to another?



Don't believe she or I said that God does not punish people. Again you are dreaming up things just to be contrary. Remember my reply to you about eternal punishment ... and you apologized?

Instead of always tearing down, why don't you try to build up?

1-Sigh. She brought up the "historical" part of it. You simply do not read your own posts. I commented on her words. I made nothing up. If she believed the Bible, like I alluded to before, she's be expecting a mansion, not another room.

2-Nope. I am of sound mind. Why do you just want to tear down ?

3-Jesus never lied to anyone. You are simply trying to squirm out of your scripture denying O/P. Scarlett explained it beeter than I will even try to, in your other whiney-boy thread.

4-Actually, I did answer. You did not read it. My answer to your question is "yes". Don't worry about death. It's just another "room". Why on Earth would a man who professes Christ as his savior pass this message on ?

5-If death is just another "room" where our eyes will be open, then why worry asbout sin, or it's consequences ? Isn't that the message ?

6-More whining. When you say something worth building on I might.

 

[Crabtownboy]

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Well, isn't this an interesting reply? A man who claims to be a minister of the gospel of Christ using recognized hate language against a fellow Christian.

Surely this is some type of violation of board rules, or it certainly should be a violation.

Hate language is terms that dehumanize, demonize, stigmatize, or

delegitimize national, ethnic, religious, racial, or political groups.
Dehumanize: “to characterize as subhuman, inhuman or otherwise without
human qualities.” Dehumanizing hate language consists of terms and
metaphors - usually labelling members of a group to a disease (e.g., cancer,
plague), infectious agent (e.g., virus), animal (e.g., cockroach), or alien species
inducing disgust, revulsion, fear and hate for the other

http://jcpa.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/COREVALUES_Yael_for_publish_31jan13_v1.pdf

 

[Alcott]

So did Jesus use hate language when he called the people "brood of vipers," or the gentile woman whose daughter he eventually healed a "dog," or Herod a "fox" [and a female fox, at that, as I get it]?