Pastor disqualifies himself over Trump

[Revmitchell]

An Apology to Some Evangelicals July 2019 [LINK]

First, I ask your forgiveness for writing out of fear and anger at times.
Second, I ask your forgiveness for writing in ways that were sometimes indiscriminate.
Third, I ask your forgiveness for sometimes writing before I had sufficient details to comment effectively.
Fourth, I apologize for my sometimes dismissive, disregarding, rude, impatient and harsh tone on social media.
Fifth, I apologize for any ways I have misrepresented anyone’s motives, comments, or positions.
Sixth, I want to ask your forgiveness for acting out of hopelessness.
Finally, I ask your forgiveness for offering this apology and seeking your forgiveness in so tardy a fashion.​

Pastors are people, people have weaknesses.
If I want a perfect pastor, one that doesn't make mistakes, I'd be changing churches every week.

I want a pastor that speaks with bold confidence, yet is humble.
I want a pastor that listens to others, yet is firm in his convictions.
I want a pastor that boldly convicts others to turn from their sins, but doesn't push me too hard to change mine.

Pastor Anyabwile is a complex man. I don't agree with some of what he writes but it is worth listening to another view point, spoken from a different cultural position.

Rob

Glad to see this. Now I will wait and see if he means it.

 

[Rockson]

I think Pastors if they're wise should stay out of the arena of political commentary. Not that all Christians should but it can be counter productive for Christian leaders in the pulpit in getting people to listen to you on the more important issues of spiritual things.

 

[Revmitchell]

I think Pastors if they're wise should stay out of the arena of political commentary. Not that all Christians should but it can be counter productive for Christian leaders in the pulpit in getting people to listen to you on the more important issues of spiritual things.

Political issues are spiritual things too.

 

[Ziggy]

And add to that the various imprecatory Psalms....should they not have been written?

 

[canadyjd]

No. Seeing the wicked perish is not contrary to scripture. Ever read any of David's prayers?

If you are the King of Israel, you are on solid ground. If you are a Christian professing to follow the commands of Christ, you are behaving in a shameful way that is contrary to the commands not to repay evil for evil and to pray for such people, not to pray they die of cancer. Shameful and disgraceful to the cause of Christ in the world.

Peace to you

 

[canadyjd]

Political issues are spiritual things too.

I disagree. For a pastor to focus on politics is to stray from the message of salvation in Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

Peace to you

 

[Revmitchell]

I disagree. For a pastor to focus on politics is to stray from the message of salvation in Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

Peace to you

I have seen people say this before and I find it odd. Is it your position that the only thing a pastor should preach on is salvation?

 

[Salty]

I think Pastors if they're wise should stay out of the arena of political commentary. Not that all Christians should but it can be counter productive for Christian leaders in the pulpit in getting people to listen to you on the more important issues of spiritual things.

Unless there is a moral issue involved - ie abortion, acceptance of H0m0sex(you)als., and ect

 

[Calminian]

An Apology to Some Evangelicals July 2019 [LINK]

First, I ask your forgiveness for writing out of fear and anger at times.
Second, I ask your forgiveness for writing in ways that were sometimes indiscriminate.
Third, I ask your forgiveness for sometimes writing before I had sufficient details to comment effectively.
Fourth, I apologize for my sometimes dismissive, disregarding, rude, impatient and harsh tone on social media.
Fifth, I apologize for any ways I have misrepresented anyone’s motives, comments, or positions.
Sixth, I want to ask your forgiveness for acting out of hopelessness.
Finally, I ask your forgiveness for offering this apology and seeking your forgiveness in so tardy a fashion.​

Pastors are people, people have weaknesses.
If I want a perfect pastor, one that doesn't make mistakes, I'd be changing churches every week.

I want a pastor that speaks with bold confidence, yet is humble.
I want a pastor that listens to others, yet is firm in his convictions.
I want a pastor that boldly convicts others to turn from their sins, but doesn't push me too hard to change mine.

Pastor Anyabwile is a complex man. I don't agree with some of what he writes but it is worth listening to another view point, spoken from a different cultural position.

Rob

I have to say, apologies go a long way with me. This was written recently, after his election tampering comments. He also mentioned Ferguson and Michael Brown by name. I'd like him to specifically mention Darren Wilson (the slandered cop), but hey, this is not bad. I'll be curious where he goes after this.

 

[canadyjd]

I have seen people say this before and I find it odd. Is it your position that the only thing a pastor should preach on is salvation?

Imo, all preaching should focus on scripture and always make reference of Christ and Him crucified.

Peace to you

 

[Revmitchell]

Imo, all preaching should focus on scripture and always make reference of Christ and Him crucified.

Peace to you

And yet everything is a spiritual issue and can be found in scripture. Even what is considered political issues, race, abortion, sex, etc.

 

[canadyjd]

And yet everything is a spiritual issue and can be found in scripture. Even what is considered political issues, race, abortion, sex, etc.

I don't necessarily disagree that all of those issues can be addressed in sermons, and shown to be informed by scripture with focus on Jesus .

The problem I see is the attack on brothers and sisters in Christ, and others, over political beliefs, sometimes in sermons.

Some are praying for people to die of cancer because of their beliefs. As you pointed out in the OP, at least one pastor is encouraging illegal behavior.

It is all shameful.

Peace to you

 

[Calminian]

Imo, all preaching should focus on scripture and always make reference of Christ and Him crucified.

Peace to you

Paul preached Christ crucified to the Jews and God-fearing Greeks who already knew the Old Testament. Interestingly, in Acts 17, addressing the non-God-fearing Greeks he did not. He preached creation, history, judgment and even eschatology (v. 31). Then he left. Curious if you would also criticize Paul's approach on Mars Hill.

 

[Revmitchell]

I don't necessarily disagree that all of those issues can be addressed in sermons, and shown to be informed by scripture with focus on Jesus .

The problem I see is the attack on brothers and sisters in Christ, and others, over political beliefs, sometimes in sermons.

Some are praying for people to die of cancer because of their beliefs. As you pointed out in the OP, at least one pastor is encouraging illegal behavior.

It is all shameful.

Peace to you

I don't do that. My focus is scripture and Jesus when I preach on these issues.

 

[canadyjd]

I don't do that. My focus is scripture and Jesus when I preach on these issues.

Based on your posts, that I often read but don't respond to, I am not surprised we agree on this.

Peace to you

 

[Hollow Man]

Pat Robinson, famous t.v. pastor, formally SBC, ask his viewers to pray supreme court justice Ginsb*rg die from cancer.

I know you stated that you don't care. I think it is just as shameful as what you posted.

I don't think it's a contest of who is most inappropriate. We should all care when such actions bring shame to the cause of Christ.

Peace to you

To be fair, there's a world of difference between a TV personality calling for someone to die and a pastor calling for someone to die.