Pastor or President: Should a women hold either office?

[tyndale1946]

So why not give unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

The church is the woman that Jesus Christ purchased and saved in his own blood!... The world can do what the world does but the church does not have that option... She must, as the bride listen to her husband!... The husband, loves, feeds and protects his bride and according to Gods order its not the other way around... Paul stated the same speaking about how Christ loved his bride but also told earthly husbands to follow Christs example... Scripture state that a bishop (pastor, elder, minister) must be the husband of one wife. Change the order of God and prepare for the consequences!... Brother Glen

 

[Inspector Javert]

You can't compare Carson's non-existent experience to even the scant experience that Obama had. As unqualified as Obama was, Carson is even less qualified.

Not even close.....

Obama has never actually had a real job.

Yes, Obambi has more time as a government hack...and more time as a community agonizer...
but he's never had a real job in the real world wherein he's provided a good or service that anyone ever actually wanted or needed.

Getting elected to the senate (and then voting "present") most of the time isn't "experience". And qualifies you for nothing.

Becoming the chief of Neuro-surgery at one of the most prestigious hospitals on the planet......qualifies as real experience:
And also likely means he has probably 100 times as much knowledge about the inner-workings of the medical system in our country than Obama does who has never so much as stitched a small cut.
Only a Democrat Liberal would think that Obama brought/brings more meaningful skills than someone like Ben Carson does.

 

[Zaac]

Not even close.....

Obama has never actually had a real job.

Yes, Obambi has more time as a government hack...and more time as a community agonizer...
but he's never had a real job in the real world wherein he's provided a good or service that anyone ever actually wanted or needed.

So. Are those the new 21st century requirements for the Office of President?
But this is nothing more than a FOX News generated lie.

A cursory look quickly shows that Barack Obama has held plenty of jobs in the private sector including

1983-84 - research assistant with Business International Corporation - New York .

1985 - project coordinator with New York Public Interest Research Group - New York .
1985-1988 - community organizer, Developing Communities Project - Chicago.
1988 - research assistant with Lawrence Tribe. Harvard Law School professor and renowned constitutional scholar.

1989 - summer associate, Hopkins & Sutter.

1990 - summer associate with Sidley & Austin.

1990-1991 - president, Harvard Law Review.

1993-2004 - associate and partner (starting 1996), Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland - Chicago.

1993-2004 - part-time lecturer, University of Chicago Law School - Chicago - lectured on constitutional law.

Getting elected to the senate (and then voting "present") most of the time isn't "experience". And qualifies you for nothing.

Ben Carson doesn't even have that.

Becoming the chief of Neuro-surgery at one of the most prestigious hospitals on the planet......qualifies as real experience.

Becoming a partner at a law firm qualifies as real experience too then.

Only a Democrat Liberal would think that Obama brought/brings more meaningful skills than someone like Ben Carson does.

Well I'm not a Democrat Liberal and I think Obama brought more to the table with him in 2008 than Ben Carson would bring in 2016.

 

[Inspector Javert]

Well I'm not a Democrat Liberal

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[PreachTony]

Obama has never actually had a real job.

Not entirely true...he did work in the private sector for a brief period of time, but he referred to it thusly:

By his own admission, Obama has neither affinity nor respect for the private sector. In his autobiography Dreams from My Father, he wrote that he sought “conventional work” to pay the bills until he could realize his goal of becoming a community organizer. This line in the book reveals his mindset: “Like a spy behind enemy lines, I arrived every day at my mid-Manhattan office and sat at my computer terminal.” His rationale? “I would need the money later, I told myself. Organizers didn’t make any money; their poverty was proof of their integrity.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/henrymiller/2012/06/13/obamas-disdain-for-the-private-sector/

 

[Zaac]

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Hard to believe , huh? but I keep telling yall when it comes to God's word, I'm probably the most conservative person on this board. And that conservatism touches every subject.

 

[Inspector Javert]

Hard to believe , huh?

No.
Pretty much impossible to believe.

but I keep telling yall when it comes to God's word, I'm probably the most conservative person on this board.

Yes you do....
That doesn't miss my eyes or anyone else's....
We are quite familiar with the fact that you claim that.

But....
We don't believe you....
I maintain we all think you are lying.

And that conservatism touches every subject.

That's why we don't believe you.

We know what a Christian who truly HATES sin looks like, sounds like, and feels like.
You don't hate sin...

You love the sinner all right,
but you don't HATE SIN.
Cognitively....we can understand your arguments....
But sin doesn't make you REALLY angry, and it's obvious it doesn't.

You CLAIM to believe that homosexuality is a sin...but it wouldn't bother you if you saw it.

You CLAIM to be anti-abortion...but it wouldn't phase you one whit to see thousands of infants offered up to Molech.

You CLAIM many things.......
You've never taken exception to real sin when it manifests itself in plain sight.

That's why no one believes you.

You don't hate sin.
You aren't conservative.
We don't believe you.

 

[Calypsis4]

past the point

I think that, as a country, we are past the point where it makes any difference whether it is a man or a woman. A godly man will never become president of the United States in this day and age. The morally degenerate populace wouldn't tolerate such a person. Nonetheless, I would still like the opportunity to vote for a good person.

 

[Zaac]

No.
Pretty much impossible to believe.

Yes you do....
That doesn't miss my eyes or anyone else's....
We are quite familiar with the fact that you claim that.

But....
We don't believe you....
I maintain we all think you are lying.

That's why we don't believe you.

We know what a Christian who truly HATES sin looks like, sounds like, and feels like.
You don't hate sin...

You love the sinner all right,
but you don't HATE SIN.
Cognitively....we can understand your arguments....
But sin doesn't make you REALLY angry, and it's obvious it doesn't.

You CLAIM to believe that homosexuality is a sin...but it wouldn't bother you if you saw it.

You CLAIM to be anti-abortion...but it wouldn't phase you one whit to see thousands of infants offered up to Molech.

You CLAIM many things.......
You've never taken exception to real sin when it manifests itself in plain sight.

That's why no one believes you.

You don't hate sin.
You aren't conservative.
We don't believe you.

Good thing that I don't need a bunch of UnGodly, don't like anyone or anything who doesn't look like them or share their unGodly political ideology types to believe me. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Inspector Javert]

Good thing that I don't need a bunch of UnGodly, don't like anyone or anything who doesn't look like them or share their unGodly political ideology types to believe me. :smilewinkgrin:

You DO need them.

I do.
Every Godly Christian does.
If you don't than you are consumed with base arrogance or simply a hatred of all that is holy.....
If it became blatantly clear to me that 90% of all Bible-Believing Christians defied my ideas....that would give me pause to stop and think for a minute about who I thought I was...

But not you...
No.
You have it all figured out don't you....

The base fact that you are perfectly copacetic with the idea that 95% of all Baptist Christians couldn't validate you is precisely why I call Shenanigans on every thing you say.

You have no fear of God.
You have no hatred of sin.

You would see countless Millions of babies burned as sacrifice before the fires of Molech before you would seek to defend marriage as sacred before God.

Even now you would not deny it.

You would admit that you would prefer a party in power which defends and protects the slaughter of the unborn before you would protect the party which insists on a Godly definition of marriage....

Deny it.

You can't.
You won't.

I know who you are.
And I'm not the only one.

 

[Zaac]

You DO need them.

I do.
Every Godly Christian does.

Umm, Nope. You obviously don't understand Godly.

If you don't than you are consumed with base arrogance or simply a hatred of all that is holy.....

If you do, then you're consumed with a wickedness that explains why you don't have a problem with the wickedness of folks on this board.

If it became blatantly clear to me that 90% of all Bible-Believing Christians defied my ideas....that would give me pause to stop and think for a minute about who I thought I was...

Laughable. Again, I stand firmly on the word of God and if 90% of "Bible-believing Christians" are at odds with the truth of God's word, then take it up with God. It's His word that your actions are at odds with. But again, this isn't new. History shows racially prejudiced and racist white people acting the same way during slavery and Jim Crow. So keep following that old script.

But not you...
No.
You have it all figured out don't you....

The base fact that you are perfectly copacetic with the idea that 95% of all Baptist Christians couldn't validate you is precisely why I call Shenanigans on every thing you say.

I have it all figured out that this board is filled with a bunch of racially prejudiced and racist white people who sadly are probably representative of what's in Baptist Churches.

You have no fear of God.
You have no hatred of sin.

I have no fear of racially prejudiced and racist white people. I hate what God hates and the behavior of the many racially prejudiced and racist on this board falls into that hate category.

You would see countless Millions of babies burned as sacrifice before the fires of Molech before you would seek to defend marriage as sacred before God.

:laugh: Pure foolishness. Good thing for me that I have enough GOD sense to recognize that people who brandish their racial prejudice and racism around don't have a problem with bearing false witness.

Even now you would not deny it.

Save the witchcraft. I'm not your puppet.

You would admit that you would prefer a party in power which defends and protects the slaughter of the unborn before you would protect the party which insists on a Godly definition of marriage...

.

Again, save the witchcraft. I'm not manipulated like your friends.

Deny it.

You can't.
You won't.

Ooo. A double dog dare. Again, save your witchcraft. You don't get to frame the conversation for me.

 

[PreachTony]

 

[Jerome]

If a woman ought not be President because of her gender, should women not serve as mayors or governors or in the Congress or Senate or any other leadership position?

Or on the council of The Gospel Coalition, or President of the SBC?

 

[Rolfe]

I think that Mrs. Rolf should be President. It is my best chance for an Air Force One entry in my log book and would top off my career. :laugh:

 

[InTheLight]

Inspector Javert and Zaac go at it!

 

[HankD]

Pastor or President: Should a women hold either office?

Not the office of pastor but president, well, it depends upon the woman.

There are those who believe H. Clinton can do no wrong, but of course there are/were those in the Bush camp, those in the Reagan camp, etc...

Let's see what happens with the outcome of the apparent/alleged scandals which both go before and follow after her.

Right now I think many of us would be happy with a presidential candidate who 1) Hates abortion, 2) speaks the truth and 3) is blameless.

Yea, I know good luck with that.

HankD

 

[HankD]

Duplicate post.

 

[OldRegular]

Albert Mohler takes Margaret Thatcher to task for violating the general presidence set in scripture that men are to be the leaders:

http://www.albertmohler.com/2013/04...et-thatcher-and-the-leadership-of-conviction/

Dr. Albert Mohler says it well as he does most things he addresses. Margaret Thatcher was a remarkable lady just As Ronald Reagan was a remarkable man. I would put Lady Margaret Thatcher alongside Winston Churchill as great Prime Ministers.

 

[fourwedge]

Pastors and presidents

There are many reasons why Hillary shouldn't be a pastor or a president.

1)Woman shouldn't be considered for pastoral position because they are supposed to submit to men's spiritual guidance in accordance to God's Word.

2)Socialist traitors should never be elected to be the leader of the free world. Look where that has gotten us with O in office.

 

[corndogggy]

While scripture does not speak directly to the Presidential office the general presidence set in scripture is that men are to be the leaders.

Where does it say anything bad about Deborah leading Israel? She did quite well for herself and had God's backing in the big battle.