Pastors posting on the BB

[Skandelon]

Is Webdog implying that pastors should not be having enough "free time" to be able to post and dialog here on BB? taht they should be sticking to their 'pastorly' duties?

I don't have a bone to pick with Webdog, so that is not the way I took it.

I think he was asking about those who "appear" to be here excessively in relation to what he knows of his own Pastor's work schedule. It's a valid question that I imagine would step on some toes who may very well be neglecting more important matters. Like I told him, I like to make sure everyone's toes get the appropriate treatment though....including mine.

And if its worth anything, I'll admit whatever you want to get those cheesy grits!

 

[JesusFan]

I don't have a bone to pick with Webdog, so that is not the way I took it.

neither do I!

I think he was asking about those who "appear" to be here excessively in relation to what he knows of his own Pastor's work schedule. It's a valid question that I imagine would step on some toes who may very well be neglecting more important matters. Like I told him, I like to make sure everyone's toes get the appropriate treatment though....including mine.

And if its worth anything, I'll admit whatever you want to get those cheesy grits!

I have some steaming hot Detroit White castles for you! ( that a burger)

 

[webdog]

From a guy who has a 15,000 post count and is seemingly on the board 24/7. Of course, to be fair, webdog is not a pastor. But he is certainly advocating the holding of pastors to a higher or different level than all other Christians, isn't he? Wonder how he does in church business meetings... :laugh:

You don't think a pastor should be held to a higher standard than other Christians? Quite telling.

 

[webdog]

Probably, and probably GF is right on that he is holding preachers to a higher standard than the rest of us, but if you can get him to admit that I'll take us all out for some cheesy grits.....

I wasn't implying any such thing.

Why should it be a mystery that pastors are to be held to a higher standard?

 

[webdog]

I think it's apparent that some here have taken the question quite personal. Wonder why.

 

[webdog]

"I have noticed a few pastors on this board every time I am on here. Is this a normal and accepted practice of the pastorate?"


?????

What is there not to understand? Is it a normal practice of the pastorate to be involved quite extensively on web bulletin boards fighting over theology? Is that part of the calling? Did Paul envision this in his letter to Timothy?

 

[webdog]

You know I'm not fighting you here...I think your question is worthy of discussion and doesn't deserve some of antagonism you are getting. But, I'm an equal opportunity offender in that when toes are getting stepped on, I like to include everyone. :laugh:

No offense taken.

So, I will counter by saying... If you helped your pastor would there have been a need for them to hire another administrative pastor? In other words, if the flock were "doing the work of the ministry" that the pastor is called to equip you for would he be soooo very busy?

Our church is an elder led church. We do have a considerable amount of volunteers (including myself and my wife). I guess the fact remains there are responsibilities that are given to an elder, and responsibilities given to the flock. The elders felt it best to bring in another pastor to assist the Sr. pastor.

I ask this in concern for the burn out of pastors in our country. It is VERY high and I'm afraid its due to some of these types of expectations. I'd encourage you to ask your pastor what he does for enjoyment. Does he fish? Golf? Boat? Swim?

Yes to everything but golf

Some blog or engage others on message boards?

No, but he does post occasionally on facebook. What he doesn't do is visit boards such as these and fight over theology...and he is a calvinist.

Now, while abuse of their time by neglecting their jobs while messaging on the BB is a valid point, I just think that distinction should be clearly drawn.

Agreed.

 

[Robert Snow]

Probably, and probably GF is right on that he is holding preachers to a higher standard than the rest of us, but if you can get him to admit that I'll take us all out for some cheesy grits.....

That isn't fair at all!'

Tempting me with "cheesy grits!" I might be tempted to PM Webdog and offer him a bribe, just to take you up on your offer! :laugh:

 

[sag38]

How dare a pastor, in study, have time to interject thought throughout the day on the BB, and sharpen his apologetic skill against error regularly?

Glad to know that we have pastor error corrector on here regularly to keep us all straight.

 

[preacher4truth]

How dare a pastor, in study, have time to interject thought throughout the day on the BB, and sharpen his apologetic skill against error regularly?

Glad to know that we have pastor error corrector on here regularly to keep us all straight.

God forbid preachers actually do what they're instructed to do Biblically.

Or would you rather have your ears scratched?

Have any real substance to show this isn't happening, or is happening? Or just another drive-by?

 

[glfredrick]

You don't think a pastor should be held to a higher standard than other Christians? Quite telling.

Nice spin! Are you in politics or a national news talking head?

Pastors, like all other believers, are sinners saved by grace. That congregants hold them to a standard that they (the congregants) may refuse to follow themselves is telling. According to the Scriptures, we're all "ministers of the gospel, save that some are gifted with the ability to preach, teach, or evangelize. Can't find the biblical ordinance for gossip, however... :wavey:

 

[glfredrick]

No, but he does post occasionally on facebook. What he doesn't do is visit boards such as these and fight over theology...and he is a calvinist.

I actually looked up a sermon from your pastor and offered it to you as an un-cited quote a while back in the thread. You were offended and failed to respond. I had quite a chuckle over that one. Wonder if he knows your personal theology?

 

[JesusFan]

God forbid preachers actually do what they're instructed to do Biblically.

Or would you rather have your ears scratched?

Have any real substance to show this isn't happening, or is happening? Or just another drive-by?

You mean that Jesus and the Apostles would not have a big following on twitter today?

Paul have his face Book to try to convert the pagens?

 

[webdog]

I actually looked up a sermon from your pastor and offered it to you as an un-cited quote a while back in the thread. You were offended and failed to respond. I had quite a chuckle over that one. Wonder if he knows your personal theology?

I don't recall saying I agree with everything he preaches (he is a calvinist, remember?)

You don't think he knows my theology? Mighty presumptious.

...and I don't recall your "un-cited quote". Do you read minds? If I didn't respond you wouldn't have known if I was offended. Could have even been on ignore.

Seeing that you appear to be a stalker maybe it's time to go back on ignore ....and you have much more time on your hands than I thought.

 

[John Toppass]

Ah the Catch-22.

For what its worth, I disagree with the OP on two fronts:
1. Who cares what someone does and how much they are on the BB. I think its foolish for a person to think all a pastor does is pray, visit, and study. That isn't my day. My days are filled with meetings, meeting about meetings, pre-meetings, amongst other duties. There are often several days a week that will go by without me encountering a parishioner if I labor at my desk under the stack of paper that is consuming me.

2. That just because the BB says someone is online doesn't actually mean they're online. Not too long ago I came back to my laptop after being gone for several hours and discovered I had forgotten to go to another site. It probably looked like I was around that whole time...I wasn't.

In general I like coming around here as a relaxer. I've got an iPad now so I can pop up safari and swing through for a couple minutes while waiting on a meeting to get going (everyone is insufferably late recently) or if I'm waiting on something else. I'm a speed reader so I can breeze through posts and replies quickly. When I post replies I try to be concise and often don't reply until I've got a free moment.

I also use my iPhone when I'm out and about. Probably between the two, and because I don't always minimize the browser the BB doesn't realize I'm gone. The tracking software is only so smart.

These might be reasonable points as to why it appears some are around.

Rather than throwing around accusations maybe we can engage in a balanced discourse first to see what others might be doing and observing.:thumbsup:

:thumbsup: I can and do agree with what you say. I do think by using our real names or not hiding our info would make us more accountable for what we say and how we say it. (not 100% ----- I am proof of that but it would make us think twice---- that, I can vouch for)

 

[Gershom]

What is there not to understand? Is it a normal practice of the pastorate to be involved quite extensively on web bulletin boards fighting over theology? Is that part of the calling? Did Paul envision this in his letter to Timothy?

What you call "fighting over theology," others call "sharpening apologetic skills." ( :laugh: )

 

[webdog]

What you call "fighting over theology," others call "sharpening apologetic skills." ( :laugh: )

I guess if those "skills" include personal attacks, abrasiveness and questionable debate tactics

 

[glfredrick]

I don't recall saying I agree with everything he preaches (he is a calvinist, remember?)

You don't think he knows my theology? Mighty presumptious.

...and I don't recall your "un-cited quote". Do you read minds? If I didn't respond you wouldn't have known if I was offended. Could have even been on ignore.

Seeing that you appear to be a stalker maybe it's time to go back on ignore ....and you have much more time on your hands than I thought.

Nah... no big deal. You and I were in "one of those debates" and I thought that it might be fun to cite something your pastor said in a sermon (that also fit the point I was trying to make at the time concerning God's sovereignty) and you (as I recall) got rather testy about the citation. If I wanted to make a big deal out of it, I would have then. Only sharing it now because you've (finally) come out and made evident that you and your pastor are likely worlds apart in theological doctrines.

As for finding your pastor, that was rather easy. Just follow the links in your profile. Most of us have them... Took like 3 clicks... And, don't even begin to insinuate that you are not doing likewise. As I recall, YOU started this thread by admitting that you are tracking the pastors on this board and making comment (gossip) concerning their activity on-line. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[glfredrick]

:thumbsup: I can and do agree with what you say. I do think by using our real names or not hiding our info would make us more accountable for what we say and how we say it. (not 100% ----- I am proof of that but it would make us think twice---- that, I can vouch for)

Amen!

Perhaps we should make it a forum rule that everyone's real name and church affiliation is posted as a part of their signature! Some of us do that willingly. Others? Well, let's just say that some of the vocal ones REALLY hide their info, including some of the moderators and administrators.

 

[Gershom]

I guess if those "skills" include personal attacks, abrasiveness and questionable debate tactics

Exactly what I was thinking.