KevinThrowe
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So you never read misquoting Jesus.
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Path of this America
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Jesus does want us to follow His teachings.
You keep saying "the world love wants to see". That is a bit strange. If I take it to be a niche way of saying "a world God wants to see" then it is problematic because Scripture presents God as saving a people out of a world that is perishing (a good illustration would be Noah). If I take it as "love" then it is a hazy motto (love is an action, not an entity).
That said, I do realize there is often a dichotomy between God's Word and Catholic teachings. I cannot speak to what you were taught in Sunday School.
I can, however, speak to Jesus' words and Scripture. Jesus never taught that we are to create a world of one people. In fact, Jesus taught exactly the opposite - that there is the world and out of the world people will be saved as a particular people.
KevinThrowe
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Misquoting Jesus.Must read book.
I'm not going to read a book that teaches that the Bible is NOT a "way to God". And that the Bible is a "false idol" - both "unstable" and "unreliable". Bart Ehrman believes the Bible was not written by the Holy Spirit directing man. He believes it merely a human book - flawed.
I'm answering your questions. I'm sorry you won't answer mine.
Goodbye. You won't hear from me again since you are only trolling. I'm going to pray that you will read the Bible since you read so much against it.
If you mean Ehrman's book, no need.
I disagree with his assumptions on many things (like how he assumes passages regarding roles in the church were to accommodate their culture, ignoring that their culture is not elsewhere accommodated).
It is not that Jesus is misquoted but that His words are misapplied and misinterpreted (like creating the world love wants to see).
In the Bible God is creating His kingdom, which is here and yet to be in its fullest. But it is not transforming this world. It is transforming individuals to be "sojourners" in this world.
Do you understand what the word we translate "church" means?
KevinThrowe
Member
Actually the author ,as I do , finds it helped his believes . It saddens me to think our faith is so insecure we cannot explore different concepts of our faith.
Ben1445
Well-Known Member
I wouldn’t call what the author writes a concept of my faith.
Tell me this, would you like to spend a day with Satan discussing your faith that is so secure?
I wouldn’t. I prefer good iron to sharpen on. I am not looking for rubbish to sharpen on.
KevinThrowe
Member
I would have no issue discussing reality with Satan.
God's Word. Must read book.
Ben1445
Well-Known Member
I’m a bit more particular about my friends. Even Jesus told Satan to leave Him.
And when Peter attempted to dissuade Him from the cross, He didn’t say let’s discuss the implications of this theological perspective. Jesus told Peter, “Get thee behind me Satan.”
I think you would do better to follow the example of Christ.
We often see discussions between those who want Christians to focus on witnessing to individuals, and not try to shape our culture and governing principles along Christian lines. Some rail against the "Social Gospel."
The believing founders of our country thought all men, but perhaps chiefly white landowners, were created equal, with the God given rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The Bible teaches it is better to be free than slave. Thus, we should influence others by persuasion rather than compulsion. And a corollary to that is separation of church and state, so the law is not weaponized to compel adherence to the theological views of those holding the power of government.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether this nation can endure in the face of wholesale seditious activity by trained Marxists, claiming to be seeking the welfare of the downtrodden, while lining their own pockets by insider trading, think Pelosi, pay for play influence schemes such as the Biden crime family, whole fraud in child care funding, and so on and so forth.
They demonize law officers, and falsely portray lawbreakers as law abiding protesters. They claim an officer being hit by a vehicle should not fire his gun in defense of himself or others.
God is reconciling humanity, one sinner at a time, by transferring the individual into Christ spiritually. But in order to facilitate an environment where people are more free to witness, to plant, and to water, some believers think we should seek governance according to the Law of Liberty.
The human race populates our planet, and various classifications exist, such as male and female, Jew and Gentile, white or black or brown or yellow. However, the Bible only makes two classifications, believers saved by God, and non-believers not or not yet saved by God. The path of religious liberty, with our citizens able to believe the doctrines of their choice, is the path America should be on. Citizens should NOT be compelled to pay for gender affirming care (physical mutilation) or abortion (infanticide). Women should not be compelled to undress in front of males claiming to be women.
The believing founders of our country thought all men, but perhaps chiefly white landowners, were created equal, with the God given rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The Bible teaches it is better to be free than slave. Thus, we should influence others by persuasion rather than compulsion. And a corollary to that is separation of church and state, so the law is not weaponized to compel adherence to the theological views of those holding the power of government.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether this nation can endure in the face of wholesale seditious activity by trained Marxists, claiming to be seeking the welfare of the downtrodden, while lining their own pockets by insider trading, think Pelosi, pay for play influence schemes such as the Biden crime family, whole fraud in child care funding, and so on and so forth.
They demonize law officers, and falsely portray lawbreakers as law abiding protesters. They claim an officer being hit by a vehicle should not fire his gun in defense of himself or others.
God is reconciling humanity, one sinner at a time, by transferring the individual into Christ spiritually. But in order to facilitate an environment where people are more free to witness, to plant, and to water, some believers think we should seek governance according to the Law of Liberty.
The human race populates our planet, and various classifications exist, such as male and female, Jew and Gentile, white or black or brown or yellow. However, the Bible only makes two classifications, believers saved by God, and non-believers not or not yet saved by God. The path of religious liberty, with our citizens able to believe the doctrines of their choice, is the path America should be on. Citizens should NOT be compelled to pay for gender affirming care (physical mutilation) or abortion (infanticide). Women should not be compelled to undress in front of males claiming to be women.
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KevinThrowe
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Have you read “ misquoting Jesus “?
KevinThrowe
Member
Really focus on 10 humans. And ignore the millions in need.
Ben1445
Well-Known Member
I don’t know what you are talking about. I was talking about something that looks like a typo. A significant one IMO.
Thanks!! Citizens should NOT be compelled is what I was trying to say!! I edited post 31 to fix my error!
KevinThrowe
Member
The 10 trans.
Let's see...hmmm...God's Word or the word of an apostate? I'll stick with God's Word.
KevinThrowe
Member
You do understand the author is a religious man. PhD in theology.
It was a typo. Van left out the word "not". And that truly altered what he meant to say.