Think that really saved can do all of the above, but would be sinning against the Lord and the new nature and the Holy Spirit and would have to "come back to their senses: at some time!
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Pelosi appoints socialists AOC, Tlaib, etc.. to important house committees
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The morality standards of many Christians seem to be based upon what the culture and society states, but not the Bible!
SavedByGrace
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King David is the perfect example! Do you think that these who backslide need to "repent of their sins" (say sorry to the Lord), before they can be restored by the Lord?
Think that the really saved by the grace of God never lose their relationship, but continued sinning jams up any fellowship and enjoyment of the new life in Christ!
SavedByGrace
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don't forget that the devil is very real, and the world we live in is getting much more wicked and sinful. not an excuse.
SavedByGrace
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I don't know what Bible you are using!
Scott Downey
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God will be the judge of that.
A good tree can NOT bear bad fruit, and sexual immorality is a work of the flesh is it not?
Those who practice works of the flesh, Apostle Paul says they will not inherit the kingdom of God, and he emphasizes that by saying do NOT be deceived about that.
If they are not under conviction from God to repent of their wickedness, then no they are not saved are they.
For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death..
Only God can grant repentance to know the truth and be saved.
2 Timothy 2:24-26
New King James Version
24 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient,
25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth,
26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.
SavedByGrace
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do you think that Ravi Zacharias, a Reformed teacher, was ever saved?
yes, as it does really seem that Satan is causing many who profess Jesus as Lord to act andf think as if he is not!
Scott Downey
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Galatians 5:19-21
New King James Version
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 6
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
New King James Version
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 6
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
Scott Downey
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Why?, what do you know about the man?
The one that stated to us that Jesus will lose NONE ever saved!
Know that he did NOT hold to calvinism!
Yes, and it is a shame
But the big question is WHY!
Be part of the crowd
pressured by a guy
rebelled against parents
felt the need to have a baby to love
needed love by a close friend
Are we not training our youth in our churches?
Are not the parents teaching their children
It is estimated that 50% of teens are active sexually.
Several stats here:
32 Shocking Facts And Statistics About Teenage Pregnancy
Scott Downey
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Well, If God saves you, then your saved.
But there are many false brethren, Jesus Christ called them wolves in sheep's clothing did He not say so?
SavedByGrace
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WOW!! is CALVINISM is MAN-MADE theology and NOT completely Bible-based!!! John Calvin was NOT a CALVINIST!!!
SavedByGrace
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O Lord, deliver us from the CALVINISTS!
Scott Downey
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People caught up in sins and sexual immorality, if they die unrepentant, as in obstinately refusing God's command's, like stiff necked, then they are still dead in their sins, as they are resisting the Holy Spirit. Paul resisted the Holy Spirit until he could no longer, God overwhelmed his soul and he then was forever changed.
People who turn back, look back are not pleasing to God, are not fit for God's kingdom, so then not saved, like Lot's wife who then was not delivered from the destruction of Sodom because they are not really born again.
Luke 9:62
But Jesus said to him, “No one, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.”
People who are not born again, will look back , turn back to their old ways!
their is such a thing as an apostate
2 Peter 2
21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them
22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: “A dog returns to his own vomit,” and, “a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire.”
A person can see the path to eternal life, but never go down it, but they know it is there, so they would have know the way of righteousness.
And for all that, we are only saved if we persevere in faith until the end.
Hebrews 3
5 And Moses indeed was faithful in all His house as a servant, for a testimony of those things which would be spoken afterward, 6 but Christ as a Son over His own house, whose house we are if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm to the end.
Hebrews 9
27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, 28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.
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Think that points out to us that many Christians are getting minds renewed by culture and society and not the Bible!
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