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Pelosi appoints socialists AOC, Tlaib, etc.. to important house committees

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SavedByGrace

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People caught up in sins and sexual immorality, if they die unrepentant, as in obstinately refusing God's command's, like stiff necked, then they are still dead in their sins, as they are resisting the Holy Spirit. Paul resisted the Holy Spirit until he could no longer, God overwhelmed his soul and he then was forever changed
People who turn back, look back are not pleasing to God, like Lot's wife who then was not delivered from the destruction of Sodom.

you have not answered my question in #88
 

SavedByGrace

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Only God knows his final state!

Indeed. the point I am making is that there are some from the Reformed, who would conclude, that people like Ravi, and many others, who fall into sin, especially sexual, that they were probably not saved in the first place. This is complete nonsense and against what the Bible teaches!
 

Yeshua1

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People caught up in sins and sexual immorality, if they die unrepentant, as in obstinately refusing God's command's, like stiff necked, then they are still dead in their sins, as they are resisting the Holy Spirit. Paul resisted the Holy Spirit until he could no longer, God overwhelmed his soul and he then was forever changed.
People who turn back, look back are not pleasing to God, are not fit for God's kingdom, so then not saved, like Lot's wife who then was not delivered from the destruction of Sodom because they are not really born again.

Luke 9:62
But Jesus said to him, “No one, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.”

People who are not born again, will look back , turn back to their old ways!
The person who was really saved will still be saved, but as if by fire!
 

Yeshua1

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Indeed. the point I am making is that there are some from the Reformed, who would conclude, that people like Ravi, and many others, who fall into sin, especially sexual, that they were probably not saved in the first place. This is complete nonsense and against what the Bible teaches!
I am a Calvinist, and would see it that even the save can still do gross sinning, but will have to come back to Jesus at some point to show they were really saved!
Sometimes to, do also believe that those caught in in gross sinning just might be called home early, as God will not let His name be mocked and ridiculed forever!
 

Scott Downey

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1 Peter 1 makes it clear we are kept for salvation by the power of God through faith for a salvation of us to be revealed in the last time, or on the last DAY. Because of that power of God. HE insures our faithfulness as all things WORK TO THE GOOD of them that love God, who are the called according to HIS PURPOSE. So it is a done deal.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

To understand these things, you have to put all the pieces together... and study the scriptures.
 

Scott Downey

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The person who was really saved will still be saved, but as if by fire!
True, but Not if they are false brethren, false believers, there is such a creature, a wolf in sheep's clothing! God knows those who are His.

2 Corinthians 11:13
For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ.

2 Corinthians 11:26
I have been constantly on the move. I have been in danger from rivers, in danger from bandits, in danger from my fellow Jews, in danger from Gentiles; in danger in the city, in danger in the country, in danger at sea; and in danger from false believers.
 

Scott Downey

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I am a Calvinist, and would see it that even the save can still do gross sinning, but will have to come back to Jesus at some point to show they were really saved!
Sometimes to, do also believe that those caught in in gross sinning just might be called home early, as God will not let His name be mocked and ridiculed forever!
That is right, they will return to Christ before they pass into the next life.

1 Peter 2:25
For “you were like sheep going astray,” but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.

This can only happen in this life in the flesh, because after you pass on there is no turning back, your fate is sealed, there is no place found for repentance from dead works and faith towards God after your dead, and gone on, just a fearful looking forward to judgement and a fire which will consume the enemies of God.
 

robustheologian

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WHO among us have advocated for hatred?
All those who said that those black people who have died unjustly at the hands of law enforcement, deserved it...all those who disrespected President Obama or BLM. Want to prove me wrong? Tell me how much you love liberals, President Obama, Kamala Harris, or BLM...you can't. My point proven.
 

Yeshua1

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All those who said that those black people who have died unjustly at the hands of law enforcement, deserved it...all those who disrespected President Obama or BLM. Want to prove me wrong? Tell me how much you love liberals, President Obama, Kamala Harris, or BLM...you can't. My point proven.
I have NEVER held that any person should be wrongly killed, I just do not single out Blacks, and do not think that white Cops are on an national agenda to execute black americans!
Abortion mills kill more blacks then the KKK or racist white cops have done in all of history in a singler day!
And being against President Obama liberal and ANTI CHRISTIAN AGENDA AND POLICIES WAS nothing ABOUT HATING THE MAN!
Did you love and respect Trump as your president then?
 

robustheologian

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I have NEVER held that any person should be wrongly killed, I just do not single out Blacks, and do not think that white Cops are on an national agenda to execute black americans!
Abortion mills kill more blacks then the KKK or racist white cops have done in all of history in a singler day!
And being against President Obama liberal and ANTI CHRISTIAN AGENDA AND POLICIES WAS nothing ABOUT HATING THE MAN!
Did you love and respect Trump as your president then?
Yeah...like I said...my point proven.
 
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