Pentecostal Man’s Glossolalia Echos NBA Rosters

[DHK]

I agree with Joseph's assessment, although in this forum that is exactly where the battle is. The "worldly perversion of God's gift," that the Charismatics call tongues, has been declared to be God's gift for today. It in no way, shape or form is similar to the Biblical gift of speaking in tongues, and yet they declare that it is. As Joseph illustrated (even if it were in 'joke form'), one can say any gibberish or gobbledy-gook that they want, and then declared by the Charismatic camp to be spritual because they have "spoken in tongues." It is a facade for false spirituality.
DHK

 

[kjv34]

James_Newman saying Tounges is to the non believer is saying it's of God, but not to be used unless there is a non-believer present.
I grew up also in the Pentecostal Church, my dad is still there and so are my cousins. I don't believe that tounges is for us to use and has ended because the Bible does say Tounges shall cease( don't have the verse at hand sorry )pray for them James
also don't worry about what tragic says because if you don't agree with him he will say your wrong I've been in arguements with Pentecostals over scriptures some say I'm lost forever even if I go back to their church I can never get saved again ( the truth is I can never be lost again Jesus taught everlasting and eternal life I see nowhere in the book of John that Jesus taught you can loose it) I know these discussions get very heated even with ny Cousins and dad but the differance is my dad does believe that some Baptists will be in heaven, but some of the others don't

 

[James_Newman]

When I was young, maybe 11 or 12, my mother took us to a charismatic church that a neighbor invited us to. At some point during the festivities, I was shuffled off to a Sunday school class. The teacher was teaching about (gasp) the gifts of the spirit. Then she held up this cheesey refugee from a dairy-queen kids-meal prize that she was offering to all the children in the class. It was a plastic glove with some stuff printed on it about the Holy Spirit and she wanted to give one to each of us. The only catch was, you had to speak in tongues to get one. Much like the OP joke, just start making some sounds and let the Holy Spirit take over, right? I was never more ready to leave church in my life. Of course I didn't get a hand puppet because I wouldn't make the sounds they wanted me to make for it. The sad thing is, looking back, I believe they were trying to get me saved.

Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

If you are looking at this verse to support the assertion that tongues has not ceased, why do you stop there?

Mar 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Lets get this thing out in the open. We can get some rattlers together and we can see if this thing be of God or not real quick.

I know some sincere Christians who believe the charismatic hype. I think they love the Lord, but they have been deceived in this matter. I know some who have come out of it, and they can attest to the feelings that they experienced but those feelings are not the Spirit.

 

[tragic_pizza]

James, I am not asking you to come up with both sides of the argument. You already have your side. I'm challenging you to prove your side.

 

[James_Newman]

But for starters, I'll consider disproving the Book of Acts' obvious instances of glossolalia as evidence.

Do I just look up glossolalia in my concordance?

 

[tragic_pizza]

Originally posted by James_Newman:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />But for starters, I'll consider disproving the Book of Acts' obvious instances of glossolalia as evidence.

Do I just look up glossolalia in my concordance? </font>[/QUOTE]Don't be obtuse. Glossolalia = speaking in tongues.

 

[Pete]

"Saeed anwar taufeeq umar saleem elahi younis khan yousuf youhana inzamam-ul-haq shahid afridi abdur razzaq azhar mahmood wasim akram rashid latif waqar younis mohammad sami shoaib akhtar saqlain mushtaq..."


Translation: Pakistani cricket team

 

[tragic_pizza]

Originally posted by Pete:
"Saeed anwar taufeeq umar saleem elahi younis khan yousuf youhana inzamam-ul-haq shahid afridi abdur razzaq azhar mahmood wasim akram rashid latif waqar younis mohammad sami shoaib akhtar saqlain mushtaq..."


Translation: Pakistani cricket team

more overwhelming hilarity. man, that's rich. oh, stop, you're hurting me. oh, let me catch my breath.

 

[James_Newman]

glos·so·la·li·a Pronunciation Key (glôs-ll-, gls-)
n.

1. Fabricated and nonmeaningful speech, especially such speech associated with a trance state or certain schizophrenic syndromes.

You say this is the gift of tongues? I don't see this in the bible. You are going to have to be more specific.

 

[music4Him]

quote by kjv34
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I don't believe that tounges is for us to use and has ended because the Bible does say Tounges shall cease( don't have the verse at hand sorry )
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Awwwww come on grab it and throw it in here. Would be interested since no one can find a scripture that states without a doubt that tongues
have ceased.

Music4Him

 

[tragic_pizza]

Originally posted by James_Newman:
glos·so·la·li·a Pronunciation Key (glôs-ll-, gls-)
n.

1. Fabricated and nonmeaningful speech, especially such speech associated with a trance state or certain schizophrenic syndromes.

You say this is the gift of tongues? I don't see this in the bible. You are going to have to be more specific.

Tell you what, James, when you can have a rational discussion without propping straw men up every post, let me know.

Let's start with Acts 2, and try, try, to stay on task, mmmmk?

 

[James_Newman]

Acts 2:6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

 

[tragic_pizza]

Originally posted by James_Newman:
Acts 2:6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

So far so good.

Now, where in that passage do we find that speaking in tongues is not of God?

 

[James_Newman]

ok, I think we missed a step here.

 

[MEE]

Originally posted by James_Newman:
Acts 2:6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

Question! What was noised abroad?

MEE

 

[Bro Tony]

Now, where in that passage do we find that speaking in tongues is not of God?
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I guess my sincere question would be where does this passage teach "tongues". Especially that which is practiced in most pentecostal or charismatic churches today. This passage does not even deal with what is referred to as glossilia.

Bro Tony

 

[tragic_pizza]

Originally posted by Bro Tony:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Now, where in that passage do we find that speaking in tongues is not of God?
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I guess my sincere question would be where does this passage teach "tongues". Especially that which is practiced in most pentecostal or charismatic churches today. This passage does not even deal with what is referred to as glossilia.

Bro Tony </font>[/QUOTE]Take that up with the person who posted that passage as a refutation of tongues.

 

[tragic_pizza]

Originally posted by MEE:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by James_Newman:
Acts 2:6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

Question! What was noised abroad?

MEE

</font>[/QUOTE]What was "noised abroad" was the fact that this event was taking place.

 

[James_Newman]

No one said there was no such thing as tongues. I'm saying you don't have it.

 

[tragic_pizza]

Originally posted by James_Newman:
No one said there was no such thing as tongues. I'm saying you don't have it.

And you know this how?

Mental telepathy? An OBE where you found yourself in my head for a season? How?