This is a Romans 1 thing. Do you not acknowledge, that some turn themselves over to Satan, to PROMOTE evil? As this man does. Can you not discern the difference of one struggling with sin and one promoting it? Do you view a drug addict the same way you view the cold hearted drug pusher? Do you view the woman that is persuaded to have an abortion the same way you view the cold hearted abortionist? Ect, ect, ect...... There is a difference between the misled or indoctrinated and the evil cold hearted misleaders and indoctrinators.
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Pete Buttigie Presidential Candidate, what is a Christian to do?
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This is a Romans 1 thing. Do you not acknowledge, that some turn themselves over to Satan, to PROMOTE evil? As this man does. Can you not discern the difference of one struggling with sin and one promoting it? Do you view a drug addict the same way you view the cold hearted drug pusher? Do you view the woman that is persuaded to have an abortion the same way you view the cold hearted abortionist? Ect, ect, ect...... There is a difference between the misled or indoctrinated and the evil cold hearted misleaders and indoctrinators.
its all in their attitude towards the sinning, either they know its sinful and trying to change, or else see it as being normal and natural!
Maybe in California
How about allowing for male football players to identify as females, and shower with female cheerleaders!
At one time in high school, I would have loved to shower with female cheerleaders
So you don't believe a drug pusher can be saved? Or a doctor who performs abortions?
I think that his point was that we are to seek out those first who seem to have on them a God dealing desire to come clean!
Paul thought killing Christians was normal and natural. He wasn't trying to change. In fact, he was on his way to kill MORE Christians when Jesus confronted him and God saved him.
Haven't you ever heard testimony of someone entrenched in sin whom God called and saved?
I know what you are talking about. I understand the difference between a man struggling with homosexual sin and wanting to change and a man who doesn't give his sin a second thought and revels in it.
Are you saying only the former can be saved? Are you saying to be saved, we have to be "trying" to shake sin.
No, am saying that the man who is deep into any sinning needs to have God directly grace Him to getting saved, as does one struggling with the sinning, guess more of a question of tact and how proceed to share with them.
How do you know?
If you are walking down Bourbon Street in New Orleans and see the myriad drug deals going down, how are we supposed to know which dealer is struggling and is under conviction?
Why NOT pray for them all? I don't understand what you mean by "seek out those first".
I can tell you that my long-term friend who left his wife and married a man is NOT under conviction right now. At all. I talk to him every now and again and he is as happy as a dead pig in the sunshine. He EMBODIES the Romans 1 homosexual.
I am highly convicted to pray for him and his husband every single time they come to my mind.
I pray that God have mercy, show them the abomination of how they are living, send some Christians who see them often to somehow and personally lead them to Christ, and that God remove the blinders from their hearts and minds. They have led family members, including adult children of my friend down the path of acceptance of this lifestyle. I have prayed for them, too.
Bottom line: Are you saying I should not be praying for him?
My bolded words of your post IS what I am praying for. That God save him by showing him his sin, convicting him, and delivering him.
No, rather that depending on how someone views their sinning, we will react accordingly! Your friends needs to be wronged about mocking God and judgment to come, so its a matter of just how to Tailor the message!
I have no issues with doing that, just that how a person views the sin is how we should responds to them, especially as with mayor pete, claims to be a Christian!
Interesting question,i f by the grace of god his eyes were opened and He was really saved and divorced His "wife" due that be sinning, would that be a legal divorce per scriptures? I say yes, as it is not legit right now!
= promoting and practicing a homosexual lifestyle.
There's a problem with false equivalencies even if your assertion is true which it is not.
Hobie
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We can always pray for others, but when they not only fill their lives with darkness, but enjoy seeing it being spread, you are limited in helping them as you have to distance yourself from it.
Ephesians 5:11 King James Version (KJV)
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Where did I say we were to fellowship with evil?
Why isn't anyone on this thread supporting my repeated posts that I pray for lost people - and that includes gay people in my acquaintance without giving a "but"......
There is NO "but".
I pray for lost people including the gay people that I personally know. In fact, I pray for them the hardest. Period.
NO "but".
Reformed1689
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A write-in is a vote for whatever Democrat is on the ballot.
Hobie
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I had many good friends when I was young that drifted into the LBGT lifestyle later in their life, and they went full force into what I could not be around. So it was painful, but they drew increasing number of others falling into the same lifestyle, so I had to take myself out of that mix.