Poll - Tuesday night debate

[JPPT1974]

BTW Mike Wallace is the father of Chris Wallace.

But in all really if you said it did not come out as transparent. That is an understatement. Really Trump should had kept his mouth shut and really not interrupt. It made him look like a bully. As really if he acted with grace and kindness but firm beliefs, really he would be well liked more often

But Biden not showing signs of Dementia there. He looked bright and sharp. But still have two more debates to go. Trump needs to tone it down.

Really Harris makes Biden look like a boy scout. She will really likely win the only VP debate over Mike Pence. Harris could really be doing the heavy lifting I hear as a VP if Biden is in office.

Pence is known for his low key and likable Christian gentleman ways. As at times, Pence I have never seen him lose his temper there. He is disliked over for being loyal to the President. Which you always should be like it or not.

 

[Reynolds]

Plenty of video of Biden saying really weird stuff. Maybe he had some kind of stimulant to keep him going. I have read he collapses hard and gets really worn out after these kinds of events.

Yep. He returns to basement bunker to hide.

 

[atpollard]

I watched the debate after it was over so I could fast forward and skim through it. I don't think that the issues were the highest priority for either candidate in this debate. I think that Trump was being deliberately aggressive to attempt to rattle Biden into giving a bad performance that would feed the "dementia" rumors. I think that Biden entered the debate intending to appear as ANYTHING except senile.

At the end of the day, the electorate is so polarized and the issues are so far apart that only an event of "biblical" proportions would significantly move any voters one way or the other.

 

[canadyjd]

Watched the whole thing. Slept on it before commenting.

Bid:n met low expectations. All the interrupting was irritating, by all involved. Wall:ce made decision early to be as combative with POT:S as he was with Bid:n.

Best moments for Bid:n, looking directly into the camera to make appeal to voters.

Best moment for POT:S, he got Bid:n to denounce “green new deal” and agreement with Sand:rs supporters.

No good moments for W:llace. He interrupted POT:S way too much.

edit to add: The denouncement of GND and S:nders agreement could hurt Bid:n with his most energized supporters. The support was already lukewarm (notice AOC recent comment, “I don’t care if you like him or not...”) and these statements by Bid:n might may demoralize these young voters.

peace to you

 

[JonC]

President Trump lost the debate. Biden was just there.

I think that President Trump lost a great opportunity. Had he let Biden speak he could have contrasted the views. He could have brought out Biden's issues. I wish he had also pushed the supreme court topic. Also, he should have called out Biden by saying that he already condemned the KKK and called them a domestic terrorist group.

At first I thought that President Trump was trying to get Biden stirred up so he would make errors. But after about 20 minutes it became clear that he was not going to let any potential Biden errors come through.

Hopefully President Trump's team will help him out for the next debate.

The debate was an embarrassment for both parties.

 

[canadyjd]

President Trump lost the debate. Biden was just there.

The debate was an embarrassment for both parties.

Agreed. Many missed opportunities by attempting to anger B:den.

Worst presidential debate ever, and POT:S was at fault, followed closely by moderator.

Wall:ce should never moderate another.

peace to you

 

[InTheLight]

Would somebody that saw the debate please tell us when Trump articulated his plans for his second term? In the 2016 campaign he ran a tightly controlled message: Build the Wall, repeal and replace Obamacare, cut personal and corporate taxes, cut Obama's regulations, and rebuild the military. Last night? I didn't hear Trump offer one whiff of any sort of a plan or a vision for the next four years. Did I miss it? Or did he accomplish all he wanted to get done in 3 1/2 years?

 

[Ziggy]

A presidential debate should be required to follow normal debating society rules. No interruptions whatever, strict time limits on statements and rebuttals, and the moderator fully in charge and to be listened to.

Had either of them in a college debate society tried to pull the interruption tactics so heavily after an initial warning by the moderator, the debate would have been summarily terminated.

 

[Reynolds]

Would somebody that saw the debate please tell us when Trump articulated his plans for his second term? In the 2016 campaign he ran a tightly controlled message: Build the Wall, repeal and replace Obamacare, cut personal and corporate taxes, cut Obama's regulations, and rebuild the military. Last night? I didn't hear Trump offer one whiff of any sort of a plan or a vision for the next four years. Did I miss it? Or did he accomplish all he wanted to get done in 3 1/2 years?

Rebuild the economy from Covid. Fill the courts with conservative justices. Continue to bring foreign jobs home.

 

[Reynolds]

A presidential debate should be required to follow normal debating society rules. No interruptions whatever, strict time limits on statements and rebuttals, and the moderator fully in charge and to be listened to.

Had either of them in a college debate society tried to pull the interruption tactics so heavily after an initial warning by the moderator, the debate would have been summarily terminated.

That is never how political debates have been handled.

 

[Reynolds]

President Trump lost the debate. Biden was just there.

I think that President Trump lost a great opportunity. Had he let Biden speak he could have contrasted the views. He could have brought out Biden's issues. I wish he had also pushed the supreme court topic. Also, he should have called out Biden by saying that he already condemned the KKK and called them a domestic terrorist group.

At first I thought that President Trump was trying to get Biden stirred up so he would make errors. But after about 20 minutes it became clear that he was not going to let any potential Biden errors come through.

Hopefully President Trump's team will help him out for the next debate.

The debate was an embarrassment for both parties.

Trump had to debate Wallace. All Joe could do was laugh, smile, and name call.

 

[JonC]

Trump had to debate Wallace. All Joe could do was laugh, smile, and name call.

It was a mess. At times it seemed like President Trump was giving Biden enough rope to hang himself but just would not shut up enough to let him do it.

 

[InTheLight]

Rebuild the economy from Covid.

That's not a vision, that is a reaction to unforeseen circumstances.

Fill the courts with conservative justices.

He said that was almost completely accomplished, with just a few openings remaining to be filled.

Continue to bring foreign jobs home.

Hey, that's kind of catchy. I can hear the people thundering at his rallies, "Continue to bring home foreign jobs!"

 

[church mouse guy]

Trump had to debate Wallace. All Joe could do was laugh, smile, and name call.

Wallace was covering for Joe, who was flustered. Wallace acted like Candy Crowley when she beat up on poor (snip) Romney and saved Obama's bacon. Wallace forced Trump to act as he did because Trump acknowledge that he had to debate Wallace and Biden both. If Trump had not fought back against Wallace, then people would have said that we have another Romney or McCain on our hands. Biden was telling lies like they were going out of style. As Trump said, he can draw a large crowd at an airport hanger on a day's notice while no one wants to see and hear Biden. Everyone knows Hunter got a lot of kickback from a lot of people because of his father. Biden just said that it wasn't true. What a farce. Maybe CNN is right--Biden should not try to debate again.

Note: bold -admins correction

 

[kyredneck]

when Trump articulated his plans for his second term?

Before covid:
Trump addresses a packed arena at 'Keep America Great' rally | 9news.com

After covid:
The Trump campaign could ditch its 'Keep America Great' slogan, report says, as the US is ravaged by COVID-19, job losses, and anti-racism protests

Now:
LET'S MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

 

[Wingman68]

Biden:Antifa is just an idea.

 

[Scott Downey]

I could care less about how presentable either candidate shows themselves, or how with such fine words they speak. Both are about the total opposite on policy spectrum, and I dont want Obama era policies, socialist policies, green new deal policies , AOC and Sanders socialism, get rid of oil and gas, liberal justices changing clear wording of the constitution type thing happening which all will happen if Biden is elected. It very well be, God has handed parts of the US over to such a reprobate mind that he will not restrain anymore. Give the people what they want, go ahead serve your hedonism, the flesh and the devil. My prayer is for me and family to be able to live quiet and reverent lives in peace. The rest of the hell bound will just go as it has been determined for them. You can not change people, only God can change them by granting to them repentance. This country has many people who easily fit into the judgement of Romans 1


18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

 

[canadyjd]

After last nights performance, I have decided to refrain from referring to POT:S as a “very stable genius” until after the election.

However, I will withhold judgment as to whether he accomplished what he desired.

Although very stable, I don’t quite fall into the “genius” category, therefore I might not be able to perceive what a very stable genius was trying to accomplish.

peace to you

 

[Wingman68]

Biden:I won’t raise taxes on anyone making under 400 thousand. Biden:I will eliminate all the tax cuts that Trump did.
I’m not confused, I understand dem speak. So this means he will raise taxes, but he says he won’t. Kinda like if you like your Dr. you can keep your Dr., provided you want to pay for it yourself.

 

[Salty]

Biden:I won’t raise taxes on anyone making under 400 thousand. Biden:I will eliminate all the tax cuts that Trump did.
I’m not confused, I understand dem speak. So this means he will raise taxes, but he says he won’t. Kinda like if you like your Dr. you can keep your Dr., provided you want to pay for it yourself.

and what did Trump say - if Biden is sucessful about raising taxes - Trump said they will move out of the country!
Two extremly wealth New Yorkers - moved out of state - to Fla - where there is no income tax.

Rush makes in the neighborhood of 85 mil a year- Top Income tax for NY State is 8% = 6 mil - - So to be a bit conservative we ill make that 4 million. But NY city has an Income tax - lets say that is 2% = at least 1 million. and New York State stands out for having some of the highest property taxes in the nation. 2) . So its simple - a State/Commonwealth raises taxes and they end up loosing money. In the case of just Rushh - some 4 million dollars.

The local government relies solely on the top 10 percent for over 70 percent of taxes, with the top 1 percent paying more than the bottom 90 percent combined. So, as any rich person moves out of the city, many poor are effective.
About 8 million live in NY City - So that top 1% would be about 50,000 highly rich - so each time a rich person moves out - it effects some 200 people!