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Poll: Was Nero the "beast/antichrist"?

Was Nero the "beast/antichtrist"?

  • Yes, Nero was the "beast/antichrist".

    Votes: 3 21.4%

  • No, Nero was NOT the "beast/antichrist".

    Votes: 11 78.6%
  • Total voters
    14
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robycop3

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ChurchofChristguy said:
So in your church, do women have their heads covered I assume? Do they speak or sing? These are explicitly addressed by Paul. Do you pay your pastor? If so, where is that authorized? Do you meet in a building? Where is that authorized? Have you literally moved mountains because of your faith, as Jesus plainly told you that you could do, if you only had enough faith? Have you cut off your hand because you stole a piece of candy? Have you gouged out your eye because you peeked at a Playboy magazine or Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue?

When we literalize everything in the Holy Scripture, it's like painting an old fence: There's nowhere to quit.
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As I've said a number of times, we must use some COMMON SENSE about those things. No one cut off his hand while Jesus was here due to its being used to sin. Where is paying the pastor PROHIBITED? (At first, the apostles were the only full-time preachers.) And their audiences at least fed them & likely paid them. And the first churches met in houses if there was no other building available.
 
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1689Dave said:
Scripture "plainly says" what any cult mind wants it to say. It is a big Rorschach Test for every "end times" crackpot out there. But careful study rooted in church history and the creeds help insure we have a proper understanding. Amillennialism is in the Nicene Creed and the other ideas are not.
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And that part of the Nicene Creed is WRONG.
I posted the Scriptures about the millenium. And I choose to believe THEM over whoever met at Nicea.
 
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robycop3 said:
As I've said a number of times, we must use some COMMON SENSE about those things. No one cut off his hand while Jesus was here due to its being used to sin. Where is paying the pastor PROHIBITED? (At first, the apostles were the only full-time preachers.) And their audiences at least fed them & likely paid them. And the first churches met in houses if there was no other building available.
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No two common senses are alike my friend. And it is the ultimate hubris to appeal that others use "common sense", as if you are the sole arbiter of what common sense is. Hopefully you don't take that approach on the street corner.
 
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TurnTheTide1611 said:
Yes, with their long hair. (I Corinthians 11:15)



Speak no; sing yes (see Exodus 15:20-21, women were allowed to sing in the "church in the wilderness")



Yes, these are explicitly addressed by Paul. And how else can they be taken other than literally? Do you think he was writing figuratively? Most people that do not follow these commands use a different line of argument - like trying to say they only apply to Corinth or such like - because the idea that he is speaking figuratively is absurd.



Yes



1 Corinthians 9: 6-11



Yes



Colossians 4:15 Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house.

I'm assuming his house is a building.



No, never had a need. That doesn't mean it couldn't literally be done. Have you not seen some of the incredible prayers in the Bible that got answered?

God isn't our genie, and prayer isn't a game.



I never stole anything to my recollection.



No. There are other lesser means that can be taken before one goes to that ultimate extreme. But the verse is still literal. It is better (literally) to cut off your hand and enter life than to be cast into hell with both hands. And if your only option to avoid hell is to literally cut off your hand, that is in fact sound (literal) advice.



You don't literalize everything. When you read a book composed of doctrinal epistles, law books, history books, psalms, prophecies, etc. you shouldn't take anything figuratively unless there is reason to from the context. The Bible is not an Eastern Mystical book.

Read the Bible normally, just like you would any other law book, or personal correspondence, etc. with the difference being that you should recognize that it is the word of God, and without error.
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I agree that the Bible should be read as any other book & taken LITERALLY except where it's PLAINLY symbolic. And with our hindsight we know what that symbolism stands for.

NOW, SIR......

I'm awaiting your SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT FOR THE KJVO MYTH ! ! !
 
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ChurchofChristguy said:
No two common senses are alike my friend. And it is the ultimate hubris to appeal that others use "common sense", as if you are the sole arbiter of what common sense is. Hopefully you don't take that approach on the street corner.
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I'm the arbiter of MY OWN common sense, developed over 71 years of life.
 
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Jerome said:
I don't think any Baptist statement of faith makes a more precise fingering of just who the Antichrist is than does your 1689 Confession:

Second London Baptist Confession (pdf)

"the Pope of Rome...is that Antichrist...whom the Lord shall destroy with the brightness of his coming"
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Sorry, Sir, the penultimate AC will be ONE MAN; the line of popes is not. However, the "beast from the earth" might be a pope.
 
1689Dave

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robycop3 said:
NUPE!
I posted the Scriptures about the millenium, and those Scriptures, once they were given, supercede anything men can invent.
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You do not understand the scriptures you posted. The kingdom is eternal, not 1000 years. It is spiritual, not physical.......
 
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robycop3 said:
NUPE!
I posted the Scriptures about the millenium, and those Scriptures, once they were given, supercede anything men can invent.
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I more or less let a brother believe what he wants as far as the end times go... Our belief whatever it is to those things do not effect our Salvation one iota... One thing that I do know is we were not there when John passed this down to the seven churches of Asia... Since I've been on here there have been interpretations galore, so which one is right?... As I heard one preacher say, does it matter?... He said I can give you the Revelation in a golden nugget a child can understand... JESUS WINS!... And because Jesus Wins, we do too!... Brother Glen:)
 
1689Dave

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tyndale1946 said:
I more or less let a brother believe what he wants as far as the end times go... Our belief whatever it is to those things do not effect our Salvation one iota... One thing that I do know is we were not there when John passed this down to the seven churches of Asia... Since I've been on here there have been interpretations galore, so which one is right?... As I heard one preacher say, does it matter?... He said I can give you the Revelation in a golden nugget a child can understand... JESUS WINS!... And because Jesus Wins, we do too!... Brother Glen:)
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One problem is Jesus and Paul preached the gospel of the kingdom as being present and spiritual. Others preach a different gospel of the kingdom being future and physical.
 
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