Polynesian Rosary Beads

[HankD]

it is clear , you simply do not see.
OfLivingWaters says to what HankD said above:

God himself who dwells in the Divine assembly is not the STRANGE gods, BUT IS the GOD. The strange god who will claim the temple of God as being god that is a strange god.

It is clear that you are not the temple of the Living God Hank and have a strange spirit which denies glory to God in the Divine assembly(The Body of Christ) The BRIDE of Christ.
Psalm 82:4-6
God Presides in the Divine Assembly
…4Rescue the weak and needy; save them from the hand of the wicked. 5They do not know or understand; they wander in the darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken.” 6I have said, ‘You are gods; you are all sons of the Most High.’…

John 10:34
34Jesus replied, “Is it not written in your Law: ‘I have said you are gods’? 35If he called them gods to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken—…

Run around in circles all you want. divide scripture against scripture as if dividing up Christ's garments. You wander around in the darkness. The Bride's glory is God's glory. Through Him and in Him from Him to man in Man by His hand. Hence why He became the Son of Man.

1 John 3:1-3
Children of God
1Behold what manner of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God. And that is what we are! The reason the world does not know us is that it did not know Him. 2Beloved, we are now children of God, and what we will be has not yet been revealed. We know that when Christ appears, we will be like Him, for we will see Him as He is. 3And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as Christ is pure.…
The Bride is as pure as the Beloved and is a reflection of Him and is one as a husband and wife are and become one flesh.
Somethings are evident it would seem, only to the CHILDREN OF GOD. Keep picking up stones, but know (THE SCRIPTURES CAN NOT BE BROKEN). God Bless!

Thank you, He has, He will and you as well.

 

[utilyan]

Mary is not a queen, except in cultist imagination. And Sara was her ancestor. And neither Sara nor Mary are in heaven; they're in PARADISE. Heaven (and hell for the lost) will come later.

YOUR garbage is worse than the RCC's!

If Jesus Christ is King, Jewish custom is the Mother is Queen rather than pagan custom of wife being queen.

 

[utilyan]

Buddhists & RCs share some practices besides the aforementioned prayer beads:

"Saints" created by MEN.
Some sects (called "orders" by the RCC) believe in poverty, or at least austerity.
Both believe in meditation.
Both have a supreme earthly leader. For Buddhists, it's now H. H. Dorje Chang Buddha III from China. Like the RC pope, he received his title from other men.

Siddhartha Gautama, the original Buddha, could not possibly have heard of God, as he was born & lived in what's now India, C. 563-C.483 BC. He traveled the areas now known as Pakistan, Kashmir, & neighboring states as well as much of the Indian peninsula. There were no known missionaries there til well after Jesus had come & gone. But he knew right from wrong, and acts such as murder, theft, rape, imposition of slavery, etc. were wrong to him. So, the RC picked up some practices from the older Buddhist religion.

Misrepresentation. Don't learn what Jews believe from Nazis. Learn what Jews believe from Jews.

Anyone throughout all time and space could have heard of God as nothing is impossible with God. Everything Jesus taught was already being taught.


Jesus Christ didn't teach anything new he even gives a parable about this in "the parable of the evil farmers", He is just the best teacher.

Matthew 21

33“Listen to another parable. There was a landowner who PLANTED A VINEYARD AND PUT A WALL AROUND IT AND DUG A WINE PRESS IN IT, AND BUILT A TOWER, and rented it out to vine-growers and went on a journey. 34“When the harvest time approached, he sent his slaves to the vine-growers to receive his produce. 35“The vine-growers took his slaves and beat one, and killed another, and stoned a third. 36“Again he sent another group of slaves larger than the first; and they did the same thing to them. 37“But afterward he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 38“But when the vine-growers saw the son, they said among themselves, ‘This is the heir; come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.’ 39“They took him, and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. 40“Therefore when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vine-growers?” 41They said to Him, “He will bring those wretches to a wretched end, and will rent out the vineyard to other vine-growers who will pay him the proceeds at the proper seasons.”


You have done meditation before just never would have called it so, you still do it though. Its any kind of great focus when you are in the zone. You are not particularly thinking about or daydreaming and focused on immediate actions.

The entirety of Buddhism for the most part is found in Matthew 6. If you actually put into practice what Jesus teaches in Matthew 6 you are practicing "BUDDHISM". We don't have to call it "Buddhism" but it IS what it IS.


People never actually practice what Jesus teaches, Folks just take it for granted and say yeah sure.

Example.

Matthew 6

22The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. 23But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

Buddhism teaches this as Right View. Now I see your profile pic you have glasses, It doesn't mean since you have bad vision you must be an evil person. He is clearly talking about how you perceive things.

This is where one can claim SEEING is BELIEVING in the bible. Notice plenty of people teach the exact opposite, backwards version. Because one is dark they see everything evil. Or unless internally you are enlighten only then you can see clearly. Won't hear your Calvinist brothers quote this one much.

The backwards version of what Jesus teaches. Jesus instead teaches get the vision clear first.....get rid of the plank in our own eye first.

Matthew 6
27Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

Matthew 6
34Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

Jesus confronts you to stay in the present moment. Worrying about the future is not going make you live longer.

For example what are we going to wear tomorrow? what am I going to eat? He tells you God provides to birds and flowers and you are worth more than that.

Most people take Jesus teachings for granted. Yeah Jesus is right I shouldn't worry or fear about anything, amen, but that is it. They don't actually take it to practice.

I would challenge you to DO what Jesus says. This would be an actual expression of FAITH ALONE, actually relying on God, is walking the walk not just talking the talk.

What meditation does is shift you from the state of worry and whining to focus of listening closely and watching closely presently what is happening right this moment. Could you trust God with your problems? Could you believe God has all things covered?

Practice it.

 

[robycop3]

AOBTW its not Mary's fault but the fault of the Pontifex Maximus who made Jesus mother "Queen of heaven".

And who made a pontifex maximus ? OTHER MEN, of course !

 

[robycop3]

"Hail favored one (Mary), the Lord is with you". (Luke 1:28) - the opening words of the prayer come directly from the scriptures. Her body might be dead, but her soul lives on. She is as alive in Christ as you are me are and will continue to be even after our own mortal bodies no longer function. And this is part of the crux of the matter, this thing called the "Communion of Saints" and the idea that we can ask them to pray for us here on earth.

That whole idea is ridiculous. Mary's soul is in paradise, & she knows nothing(nor cares) about what transpires here. Prayers to deas saints don't go past the ceiling.

 

[robycop3]

Her body is not dead she has already received her imperishable body( Put on perpetually Virginity) when Christ arouse and ascended to His rest with the Ark of His strength. In which His saints shout for joy for and the priest are clothed in righteousness, for believing in .
As with many Psalms this too is a prophecy:
Psalm 132:7-9
…7Let us go to His dwelling place; let us worship at His footstool. 8Arise, O LORD, to Your resting place, You and the ark of Your strength. 9May Your priests be clothed with righteousness, and Your saints shout for joy.…

Now tell me what Ark did Christ take up with Him when He arouse to His resting place? Can't wait to hear what the prophetess jezebel has to say about this.

She was not a "perpetual virgin". Scripture plainly says she had at least 6 other children after Jesus.

And Jesus simply ascended to heaven when it was time, witnessed by men. Nothing is said about His taking anything with Him. The ark of the Covenant is now in the heavenly temple; how it got there, we don't know, Indiana Jones notwithstanding.

 

[robycop3]

Misrepresentation. Don't learn what Jews believe from Nazis. Learn what Jews believe from Jews.

Anyone throughout all time and space could have heard of God as nothing is impossible with God. Everything Jesus taught was already being taught.


Jesus Christ didn't teach anything new he even gives a parable about this in "the parable of the evil farmers", He is just the best teacher.

Matthew 21

33“Listen to another parable. There was a landowner who PLANTED A VINEYARD AND PUT A WALL AROUND IT AND DUG A WINE PRESS IN IT, AND BUILT A TOWER, and rented it out to vine-growers and went on a journey. 34“When the harvest time approached, he sent his slaves to the vine-growers to receive his produce. 35“The vine-growers took his slaves and beat one, and killed another, and stoned a third. 36“Again he sent another group of slaves larger than the first; and they did the same thing to them. 37“But afterward he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 38“But when the vine-growers saw the son, they said among themselves, ‘This is the heir; come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.’ 39“They took him, and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. 40“Therefore when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those vine-growers?” 41They said to Him, “He will bring those wretches to a wretched end, and will rent out the vineyard to other vine-growers who will pay him the proceeds at the proper seasons.”


You have done meditation before just never would have called it so, you still do it though. Its any kind of great focus when you are in the zone. You are not particularly thinking about or daydreaming and focused on immediate actions.

The entirety of Buddhism for the most part is found in Matthew 6. If you actually put into practice what Jesus teaches in Matthew 6 you are practicing "BUDDHISM". We don't have to call it "Buddhism" but it IS what it IS.


People never actually practice what Jesus teaches, Folks just take it for granted and say yeah sure.

Example.

Matthew 6

22The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. 23But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

Buddhism teaches this as Right View. Now I see your profile pic you have glasses, It doesn't mean since you have bad vision you must be an evil person. He is clearly talking about how you perceive things.

This is where one can claim SEEING is BELIEVING in the bible. Notice plenty of people teach the exact opposite, backwards version. Because one is dark they see everything evil. Or unless internally you are enlighten only then you can see clearly. Won't hear your Calvinist brothers quote this one much.

The backwards version of what Jesus teaches. Jesus instead teaches get the vision clear first.....get rid of the plank in our own eye first.

Matthew 6
27Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

Matthew 6
34Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

Jesus confronts you to stay in the present moment. Worrying about the future is not going make you live longer.

For example what are we going to wear tomorrow? what am I going to eat? He tells you God provides to birds and flowers and you are worth more than that.

Most people take Jesus teachings for granted. Yeah Jesus is right I shouldn't worry or fear about anything, amen, but that is it. They don't actually take it to practice.

I would challenge you to DO what Jesus says. This would be an actual expression of FAITH ALONE, actually relying on God, is walking the walk not just talking the talk.

What meditation does is shift you from the state of worry and whining to focus of listening closely and watching closely presently what is happening right this moment. Could you trust God with your problems? Could you believe God has all things covered?

Practice it.

There's a difference in thinking about God & trying to reach Nirvana. And sitting there mumbling a mindless chant & calling it a prayer while fiddling with a handful of beads certainly isn't honoring God.

 

[Adonia]

There's a difference in thinking about God & trying to reach Nirvana. And sitting there mumbling a mindless chant & calling it a prayer while fiddling with a handful of beads certainly isn't honoring God.

It's not a mindless chant. It contains words that come directly from the Holy Scriptures and to be done right the various events of Christ's life are to be meditated upon as it is prayed. You know, things like the first miracle performed by Jesus at Cana; the visit of the Angel Gabriel to the Blessed Mother; Her visit to her cousin Elizabeth; Jesus's time of agony in the Garden of Gethsemane, etc. Are you really against meditating on those things?

The only things you might be able to be legitimately against in this particular spiritual exercise because of your faith tradition are the crowning of the Blessed Mother as the Queen of heaven (which we believe is talked about in the Book of Revelation) and her bodily assumption into heaven. Everything else is clearly biblical to the core, even to non-orthodox believers like yourself.

 

[37818]

. . . prayer in which we ask all of heaven to pray for us, . . .

TSIA.

 

[OfLivingWaters]

She was not a "perpetual virgin". Scripture plainly says she had at least 6 other children after Jesus.

And Jesus simply ascended to heaven when it was time, witnessed by men. Nothing is said about His taking anything with Him. The ark of the Covenant is now in the heavenly temple; how it got there, we don't know, Indiana Jones notwithstanding.

I said She is the Ark of Psalm 132:8
…7Let us go to His dwelling place; let us worship at His footstool. 8Arise, O LORD, to Your resting place, You and the ark of Your strength. 9May Your priests be clothed with righteousness, and Your saints shout for joy.…

I never said she did not have other children nor did I say she is perpetually a virgin because she did not live according to the call of marriage. I said ,she received her imperishable body= her immortality , which would mean she is in perpetual virginity not only in obedience to God and the laws of marriage but is also NOW from that point on, in a state of perpetual VIRGINITY. For when we are given our new immortal bodies we are like the angels. Neither marrying or being given in marriage.

Stop misconstruing what I said. And now jezebel tell me what the prophecy (which many of the Psalms are) is saying. Everyone seems to be avoiding answering that question with a ten foot pole.

Psalm 132:7-9
…7Let us go to His dwelling place; let us worship at His footstool. 8Arise, O LORD, to Your resting place, You and the ark of Your strength. 9May Your priests be clothed with righteousness, and Your saints shout for joy.…

Have at it...... you have my undivided attention. I know you can not deduce equations because it would seem you skipped math class, LOL. But just as MEN could deduce from scripture the TITLE of HOLY TRINITY, can you deduce from scripture the sum of, 1. Who Christ is...?
2. What was placed in the OC ark.....?
3.What is NOW the obsolete Covenant.....?
4.If the OC is called obsolete what is the Ark of His strength in Psalms 132 .....?


Class is in session......pay attention.

 

[OfLivingWaters]

Right now jezebel is the substitute teacher let's hear what Roby says........Then the real teacher (The Holy Spirit) will answer.

 

[HankD]

And who made a pontifex maximus ? OTHER MEN, of course !

Men who shed the blood of many martyrs.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I think those beads in the picture are beautiful.

I have my grandfather's rosary beads. He was a Catholic, albeit a non-practicing one, and was saved when my dad was about 12. He, as they say, "got the full load" when he was saved.

To my knowledge, he never used the rosary beads when he was a Catholic. Never went to mass, didn't pray. He just wasn't saved, period.

I wear his beads sometimes as a necklace - not often, but sometimes. They are beautiful as an art piece and not an idol, to me.

I’d love to have my mom’s beads when she’s done down here.

I agree they are powerless and it’s use other than a keepsake is futile.

 

[robycop3]

It's not a mindless chant. It contains words that come directly from the Holy Scriptures and to be done right the various events of Christ's life are to be meditated upon as it is prayed. You know, things like the first miracle performed by Jesus at Cana; the visit of the Angel Gabriel to the Blessed Mother; Her visit to her cousin Elizabeth; Jesus's time of agony in the Garden of Gethsemane, etc. Are you really against meditating on those things?

The only things you might be able to be legitimately against in this particular spiritual exercise because of your faith tradition are the crowning of the Blessed Mother as the Queen of heaven (which we believe is talked about in the Book of Revelation) and her bodily assumption into heaven. Everything else is clearly biblical to the core, even to non-orthodox believers like yourself.

Yeah, it should be recited by football quarterbacks in case they find themselves in a sticky wicket & need a hail mary to bail their team out.

Seems the rosary is more a prayer to Mary than anything. She doesn't even know the rosary exists, & she certainly doesn't hear one "hail Mary" on earth. Seems y'all don't wanna let the ol' girl rest in peace.

 

[robycop3]

I’d love to have my mom’s beads when she’s done down here.

I agree they are powerless and it’s use other than a keepsake is futile.

A little aside-You have a Husky? I have one that weighs 120 lb. & stands 30" at the shoulder, piebald coloration. And he's a purebred Sibe. Shoulda named him "Shaquille".

 

[OfLivingWaters]

Yeah, it should be recited by football quarterbacks in case they find themselves in a sticky wicket & need a hail mary to bail their team out.

Seems the rosary is more a prayer to Mary than anything. She doesn't even know the rosary exists, & she certainly doesn't hear one "hail Mary" on earth. Seems y'all don't wanna let the ol' girl rest in peace.

Mean while.........back to reality at Jacobs ladder. That extends from HEAVEN TO EARTH AND BACK AGAIN. Only the House of God has access to it. From that privileged position, I will explain how the House of God on earth has access to the House of God in heaven, for the Dunces in the room.

But first let the replacement (Roby) for the REAL Teacher (The Holy Spirit) explain Psalms 132 as I challenged him to do.

 

[robycop3]

I said She is the Ark of Psalm 132:8
…7Let us go to His dwelling place; let us worship at His footstool. 8Arise, O LORD, to Your resting place, You and the ark of Your strength. 9May Your priests be clothed with righteousness, and Your saints shout for joy.…

I never said she did not have other children nor did I say she is perpetually a virgin because she did not live according to the call of marriage. I said ,she received her imperishable body= her immortality , which would mean she is in perpetual virginity not only in obedience to God and the laws of marriage but is also NOW from that point on, in a state of perpetual VIRGINITY. For when we are given our new immortal bodies we are like the angels. Neither marrying or being given in marriage.

Stop misconstruing what I said. And now jezebel tell me what the prophecy (which many of the Psalms are) is saying. Everyone seems to be avoiding answering that question with a ten foot pole.

Psalm 132:7-9
…7Let us go to His dwelling place; let us worship at His footstool. 8Arise, O LORD, to Your resting place, You and the ark of Your strength. 9May Your priests be clothed with righteousness, and Your saints shout for joy.…

Have at it...... you have my undivided attention. I know you can not deduce equations because it would seem you skipped math class, LOL. But just as MEN could deduce from scripture the TITLE of HOLY TRINITY, can you deduce from scripture the sum of, 1. Who Christ is...?
2. What was placed in the OC ark.....?
3.What is NOW the obsolete Covenant.....?
4.If the OC is called obsolete what is the Ark of His strength in Psalms 132 .....?
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Class is in session......pay attention.

This is why I said ya oughtta let your lithium & Thorazine kick in before ya post!

If Mary's an ark, I'm a steamboat!

Between the RCs & whatever goofy cult you belong to, ya just don't wanna let the ol' girl rest.

David was writing about the time while the ark of the Covenant was parked in the house of Abinadab, then in Obed-Edom's home til David became king & had it returned to the tabernacle.

And I don't think we hafta look to far to find a modern Jezebel, which means "wedded to Baal", as it seems your cult is something Baal's followers have dreamed up. Your stuff gets weirder & goofier as you go.

 

[robycop3]

Mean while.........back to reality at Jacobs ladder. That extends from HEAVEN TO EARTH AND BACK AGAIN. Only the House of God has access to it. From that privileged position, I will explain how the House of God on earth has access to the House of God in heaven, for the Dunces in the room.

But first let the replacement (Roby) for the REAL Teacher (The Holy Spirit) explain Psalms 132 as I challenged him to do.

More goofy jive.

 

[OfLivingWaters]

This is why I said ya oughtta let your lithium & Thorazine kick in before ya post!

If Mary's an ark, I'm a steamboat!

Between the RCs & whatever goofy cult you belong to, ya just don't wanna let the ol' girl rest.

David was writing about the time while the ark of the Covenant was parked in the house of Abinadab, then in Obed-Edom's home til David became king & had it returned to the tabernacle.

And I don't think we hafta look to far to find a modern Jezebel, which means "wedded to Baal", as it seems your cult is something Baal's followers have dreamed up. Your stuff gets weirder & goofier as you go.

"If Mary's an ark, I'm a steamboat!" you have said it.
Now prove, with the scriptures your claim jezebel, then the Holy Spirit will speak. A few questions , replacement......, so God's resting place is on earth right? According to you. So arise Lord to your resting place is on earth , according to you, jezebel?

 

[OfLivingWaters]

SOME MORE QUESTIONS REPLACEMENT, jezebel.........Are some of the Psalms prophecies?