Pope Francis: His name reflects ‘his ministry for the poor’

[Crabtownboy]

I have a question, "Is this Pope Francis guy a Liberation Theology advocate?"

Thanks
Steve

From my reading he was very anti-liberation theology.

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/3/14/a_social_conservative_pope_francis_led

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

From my reading he was very anti-liberation theology.

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/3/14/a_social_conservative_pope_francis_led

Good :godisgood:

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I notice, C.T.Boy that you are not going to tell me where I am wrong. It's easy to call people liars, while you hide.

What happens to people who die without Christ ?

 

[Crabtownboy]

I notice, C.T.Boy that you are not going to tell me where I am wrong. It's easy to call people liars, while you hide.

What happens to people who die without Christ ?

They go to hell, everlasting punishment.

Remember you stated:

Bro. Curtis said:

The admiration of the pope is disturbing. But the author of the O/P has stated in the past that he doesn't believe in eternal torment for the damned, so anything goes, purdy much.

I'd say my reply above pretty much exposes your comment as, well not the truth.

Now you can apologize.

Thanks in advance and blessings.

 

[Walter]

I have a question, "Is this Pope Francis guy a Liberation Theology advocate?"

Thanks
Steve

You ask a good question EWF. I found this article which denies that is the case and says there is nothing to be concerned about:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...n-theology-to-infiltrate-the-catholic-church/

 

[Bro. Curtis]

They go to hell, everlasting punishment.

Remember you stated:



I'd say my reply above pretty much exposes your comment as, well not the truth.

Now you can apologize.

Thanks in advance and blessings.

I apologize, and I humbly thank you for clearing it up. I

Now, back on the subject. And this deals with your position on those who die without Christ. What good does a humble life do the unsaved ?

 

[Crabtownboy]

I apologize, and I humbly thank you for clearing it up.

Thank you very much. I appreciate this greatly.

Now, back on the subject. And this deals with your position on those who die without Christ. What good does a humble life do the unsaved ?

I do not know that your question is on topic for the thread as it is about the pope's more humble mannerisms that those who preceded him. I wonder if any pope ever rode public transportation regularly as they climbed up the hierarchical ladder?


But to their question. If they are unsaved, they are unsaved.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Then why the emphasis on humility ? Why ignore the obvious GRAVE scriptural errors the church holds as doctrine, and praise him for his humility ?

Do you know what kind of money the Catholic church takes from third world nations ? How do you think they ammassed their wealth and power ?
Why praise it at all ? What good does a humble leader of a false church do the world ?

I'm all for charity, but that is not the central mission of the church.

Besides, there are countless fundy baptist churches, and other denominations, that help the poor and don't get praised for it, nor do they seek praise for it.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Then why the emphasis on humility ? Why ignore the obvious GRAVE scriptural errors the church holds as doctrine, and praise him for his humility ?

We are talking about the man and his attributes. Not his beliefs.

Do you know what kind of money the Catholic church takes from third world nations ? How do you think they ammassed their wealth and power ?
Why praise it at all ? What good does a humble leader of a false church do the world ?

I agree and hope he will cut down on the excesses that have happened in the past.

I'm all for charity, but that is not the central mission of the church.

With no heart for charity the message will have little or no impact.

Besides, there are countless fundy baptist churches, and other denominations, that help the poor and don't get praised for it, nor do they seek praise for it.

Personally I do not think we should look for praise in our living a Christ-like life. In my life I am not concerned about credit, praise or being known that I did something. I am much more concerned that something is done. Let the credit and praise go to someone else if either is to be given.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

We are talking about the man and his attributes. Not his beliefs.



I agree and hope he will cut down on the excesses that have happened in the past.



With no heart for charity the message will have little or no impact.



Personally I do not think we should look for praise in our living a Christ-like life. In my life I am not concerned about credit, praise or being known that I did something. I am much more concerned that something is done. Let the credit and praise go to someone else if either is to be given.

First, I consider "leader of a false church" to be one of his attributes.

Second, if he tries, he won't be pope long.

Third. LOL. Tell us about Jonah's "heart of charity", or perhaps Elijah's. What you are saying isn't true. It's the Holy Spirit that moves peop[le, not charity.

Fourth, let any credit be God's. We are not to brag about our giving, nor are we to worry about how much we feel other's do, or don't give.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Third. LOL. Tell us about Jonah's "heart of charity", or perhaps Elijah's. What you are saying isn't true. It's the Holy Spirit that moves peop[le, not charity.

Isn't it possible that the Holy Spirit uses the charity we show? Isn't it possible that without showing charity we are taking away a tool the Holy Spirit uses?

Fourth, let any credit be God's. We are not to brag about our giving, nor are we to worry about how much we feel other's do, or don't give.

I agree and add that we are not to be concerned if we receive credit on this earth or not.

 

[thomas15]

My personal opinion is that the new pope will talk much about helping the poor but his first task is to get the RCC back on track. The last two popes, nice as they are, ruled over a church that is knee deep in internal strife. So the new pope if he wants to be sucessful will need to reform the inner workings of the RCC.

Time will tell but my gut says he was selected for reasons other than reform. 500 years ago the church simply purged those deemed troublesome. These days the RCC seems to have little influence and even less control over those within who practice ouside the laws and traditions of the church.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Isn't it possible that the Holy Spirit uses the charity we show? Isn't it possible that without showing charity we are taking away a tool the Holy Spirit uses?



I agree and add that we are not to be concerned if we receive credit on this earth or not.

First, charity has nothing to do with salvation. To spread the gospel of the saving power of the blood of Christ is our mission, first and foremost.

Second, if you truly agree with me, than I expect your claims of me hating the poor and not giving enough will cease immediately.

 

[Crabtownboy]

First, charity has nothing to do with salvation. To spread the gospel of the saving power of the blood of Christ is our mission, first and foremost.

In one way no it does not. But in another way it may have a lot to do with someone being willing to listen to the message of the good news. A person who is hungry, hurting, or in need will be much more willing to listen than if those needs are not met.

Second, if you truly agree with me, than I expect your claims of me hating the poor and not giving enough will cease immediately.

Your words convict yourself. Just look above at your leading comment. Why are you so against showing charity to anyone?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

So how do we witness to the rich ?

And just where did I say I was against showing charity ? I am against wearing it on your sleeve, but I have said I'm all for charity. The rest you are making up. Like the Pharisee, you have no idea how much I give. You should apologize for your slander.