Possible solution to trannie bathroom issue

[annsni]

Why do women seem to need to go in pairs? *laugh*

Maybe it was in preparation for this - safety in numbers.

 

[Aaron]

Uh yes he does but more correctly the transgender agenda.

No he doesn't. The libs are just using the issue to extend the reach of government. That's what they care about.

 

[Rolfe]

Maybe it was in preparation for this - safety in numbers.

I presumed that it was for social reasons.

 

[Luke2427]

Now we've turned transgendered people into the boogeyman. There aren't transgendered folks hanging out in every bathroom waiting to look at yall. WHat exactly is going on in these bathrooms yall have been visiting?

The problem is not necessarily that they are lurking in the restroom waiting to pounce on some poor young girl.

It's about decency.

It's about the fact that no Christian father wants his eight year old daughter potentially exposed to some stranger's male anatomy.

It's simply indecent.

Casting off decency is no small thing. Decency exalts a society. Indecency debases it. We should stand here.

 

[Luke2427]

This is the sick kind of crud you get when you allow this nonsense:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/m...n-swimming-pool-locker-says-transgender-law-a

 

[Crabtownboy]

The solution is to keep the politics out of the private sector. Target, Wal-Mart, Dollar General, etc. are all on private property. They want men's and women's rooms? Great. If not, then they get the clientele they deserve. Why isn't anyone speaking of freedom here? You think Obama cares about "transgenders"?

Are you for keeping the private sector out of politics?

 

[Rolfe]

Are you for keeping the private sector out of politics?

I wonder about his opinion of Handicapped parking space requirements, fire codes, or food-safety regulations for restaurants.

 

[Crabtownboy]

The problem is not necessarily that they are lurking in the restroom waiting to pounce on some poor young girl.

It's about decency.

It's about the fact that no Christian father wants his eight year old daughter potentially exposed to some stranger's male anatomy.

It's simply indecent.

Casting off decency is no small thing. Decency exalts a society. Indecency debases it. We should stand here.

I agree we need decency. Having said that are you protesting the profanity, nudity and soft pornography on TV and in movies as well as the nudity of both male and female attire?

 

[Zaac]

The problem is not necessarily that they are lurking in the restroom waiting to pounce on some poor young girl.

It's about decency.

It's about the fact that no Christian father wants his eight year old daughter potentially exposed to some stranger's male anatomy.

It's simply indecent.

Everybody gets a stall.

Casting off decency is no small thing. Decency exalts a society. Indecency debases it. We should stand here.

I'm all for decency. But I also believe that if Christian fathers were as much for decency in the church as you seem to think they need to be in the bathroom, then we wouldn't have so many wives and daughters coming to the house of God dressed so indecently and immodestly.

 

[Zaac]

The solution is to keep the politics out of the private sector. Target, Wal-Mart, Dollar General, etc. are all on private property. They want men's and women's rooms? Great. If not, then they get the clientele they deserve. Why isn't anyone speaking of freedom here? You think Obama cares about "transgenders"?

Oh pish posh. That's the same line folks tried back during the 50s and 60s when they didn't want Blacks at the same lunch counters.

Perhaps Christians would fare better to start siding with empathy and loving thy neighbor as thyself FIRST rather than siding with freedom.

Why do so many in the church attempt to align themselves with the Constitution before aligning themselves with Christ?Thumbsdown

 

[Zaac]

I agree we need decency. Having said that are you protesting the profanity, nudity and soft pornography on TV and in movies as well as the nudity of both male and female attire?

Amen!!!Thumbsup

 

[Zaac]

Why do women seem to need to go in pairs? *laugh*

I bet that's where they do their weekly meetings and report into their leader. It takes two sets of chromosomes with no Ys present to access the feed.

Spill the beans Ann.

 

[Luke2427]

I agree we need decency. Having said that are you protesting the profanity, nudity and soft pornography on TV and in movies as well as the nudity of both male and female attire?

That is a faulty comparison.

I control what my children watch on TV. I do not control their bladders, nor, in a decent society should I have to even worry about such a thing.

 

[Luke2427]

Everybody gets a stall.



I'm all for decency. But I also believe that if Christian fathers were as much for decency in the church as you seem to think they need to be in the bathroom, then we wouldn't have so many wives and daughters coming to the house of God dressed so indecently and immodestly.

The church house dress standards issue is a red herring.

There is no law that says that each person gets their own stall. Neither is there a law that says that a man has to zip up while in the stall before he comes out into the view of my 8 year old daughter.

Nor should there be. A man has no business in a ladies bathroom to begin with. The simplest solution is to expect humans with the XY chromosome to go into the bathroom designated for those with XY chromosomes.

 

[Revmitchell]

It is amazing how the left contorts themselves to engage in a soft defense of such perversion.

 

[Zaac]

The church house dress standards issue is a red herring.

You can call it whatever you wish. That doesn't stop the fact that you've got more indecency going on at the church than you do in public bathrooms.

WHen people do what you're doing, it's a clear sign that this is the "issue du jour".

There is no law that says that each person gets their own stall. Neither is there a law that says that a man has to zip up while in the stall before he comes out into the view of my 8 year old daughter.

I didn't say there was a law. You simply designate the bathroom as a unisex bathroom and take out the urinals. Anybody who wants to use the stall can use the stall.

And if a guy comes out unzipped, cite him for indecent exposure just as you currently do.

Nor should there be. A man has no business in a ladies bathroom to begin with.

That's why we should make them all unisex. The stalls are already up. GO into a stall , do what you have to do, and leave.

The simplest solution is to expect humans with the XY chromosome to go into the bathroom designated for those with XY chromosomes.

That's the simplest solution for you. The government is tasked to govern ALL. And in doing so, the simplest solution is to designate all bathrooms as unisex.

 

[Zaac]

It is amazing how the left contorts themselves to engage in a soft defense of such perversion.

It's amazing how the right always finds a new issue of the day to place between itself and reaching folks for Christ. Some of the folks on the right have perfected that so much that one might be led to believe that those on the far right care a whole lot more about what they want than being able to point folks to CHrist.

This is a non-issue. Unisex bathrooms for all.

Keep it moving.

 

[Luke2427]

You can call it whatever you wish. That doesn't stop the fact that you've got more indecency going on at the church than you do in public bathrooms.

It's still a red herring. Just because there is another issue doesn't mean that this one is not an issue.

WHen people do what you're doing, it's a clear sign that this is the "issue du jour".

How is it a clear sign? On what evidence do you base that claim?

I didn't say there was a law. You simply designate the bathroom as a unisex bathroom and take out the urinals. Anybody who wants to use the stall can use the stall.

And if a guy comes out unzipped, cite him for indecent exposure just as you currently do.

And what if my curious 8 year old spies through the cracks to see the man's anatomy? That is not the same as if she spies through the cracks to see a woman's anatomy.

Does this not bother you?

That's why we should make them all unisex. The stalls are already up. GO into a stall , do what you have to do, and leave.

Or... we could leave them as they've been for hundreds of years and continue along the thinking that has dominated western civilization for thousands of years which is that it does not matter how you "self-identify", you are either a man or a woman.

Why spend billions of dollars across the land remodeling hundreds of thousands of bathrooms just so some man who wishes he was a woman can be more comfortable?

That's the simplest solution for you. The government is tasked to govern ALL. And in doing so, the simplest solution is to designate all bathrooms as unisex.

For me and about 99% of the rest of the population of this country.

The government is not tasked to force companies like Walmart or Lifeway to spend billions of dollars remodeling thousands of bathrooms across the land to conform to the demands of 0.03% of the population of this country.

That's not the government's job. Where do we draw the line? What if someone identifies as a bird? Do all the businesses and corporations of the nation have to install perches in the corners for these people to sit on to poop?

No.

That's not the government's job.

 

[Zaac]

It's still a red herring. Just because there is another issue doesn't mean that this one is not an issue.

This one isn't an issue except for those of you who have got too much time on your hands and need to convince the public that grandma is about to get pushed over a cliff.

How is it a clear sign? On what evidence do you base that claim?

History and the fact that this is just a stupid subject upon which to be trying to stake some sort of moral high ground. It's a bathroom for goodness sake. Make them unisex and it's a non-issue. Guys and girls have been going to the bathroom next to each other for a long time.

And what if my curious 8 year old spies through the cracks to see the man's anatomy? That is not the same as if she spies through the cracks to see a woman's anatomy

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What if your curious 8 year old walks in on you and your wife having butt naked sex on your bed? What if she see's daddy coming out the shower?

Tell your daughter to go to the bathroom to use the bathroom and to stop spying through cracks into other stalls. That's RUDE.

Does this not bother you?

Nope. It's a bathroom. Most civilized people understand bathroom etiquette enough that they aren't gonna go spying in between cracks in the stalls.

Or... we could leave them as they've been for hundreds of years and continue along the thinking that has dominated western civilization for thousands of years which is that it does not matter how you "self-identify", you are either a man or a woman.

Obviously it does matter how someone identifies or else we wouldn't be talking about it. Unisex bathrooms and all is well.

Why spend billions of dollars across the land remodeling hundreds of thousands of bathrooms just so some man who wishes he was a woman can be more comfortable?

Oh please hire me for this job.Rolleyes If it costs billions of dollars to remodel bathrooms to unisex, then America is stupid.

Slap a sign outside that says unisex and call it a day. Stalls for everyone.

For me and about 99% of the rest of the population of this country.

Tongue in cheek for sure.

The government is not tasked to force companies like Walmart or Lifeway to spend billions of dollars remodeling thousands of bathrooms across the land to conform to the demands of 0.03% of the population of this country.

Again,please hire me. Why is it gonna cost billions of dollars to put up a sign that says unisex?

That's not the government's job. Where do we draw the line? What if someone identifies as a bird? Do all the businesses and corporations of the nation have to install perches in the corners for these people to sit on to poop?

Part of the government's job is to see that folks aren't discriminated against. Making the bathrooms unisex alleviates the issue.

No.

That's not the government's job.

Sure it is...if you're using interstate commerce in your business, it's very much the government's job to make sure that you are discriminating against protected classes.

The government has deemed that it won't do it, so if you want to do business , the commerce clause says you must concur.

 

[OnlyaSinner]

"Oh please hire me for this job.Rolleyes If it costs billions of dollars to remodel bathrooms to unisex, then America is stupid.

Slap a sign outside that says unisex and call it a day. Stalls for everyone."

While I can agree that stalls for all could be a solution, I don't think you've thought out the above comment fully. How many urinals are there in public places across the country - Walmarts and such, restaurants, stadiums, etc, etc. There are probably millions. Given the need for totally different plumbing, I doubt a urinal-to-stall renovation could be done for under a thousand dollars. Also, since even "non-accessible" stalls are wider than urinals, there would be some loss of capacity that might lead to additional brand new restrooms. In this day and age, everything seems to cost more than expected, especially in construction/renovation, so complete conversion is indeed apt to run to a ten-figure total.. Whether it's wise to spend money for this purpose is a different question entirely.

Portraying this as only an issue for the Right kind of ignores the fact that the change is being promulgated by the Left. And while I agree that too few from either side of the aisle are strong in presenting the Gospel, I'm confident that a greater proportion of conservatives than liberals are diligent about spreading the Gospel seed.