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evangelist6589

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Malachi 2:13-16 NAS77
13 "And this is another thing you do: you cover the altar of the LORD with tears, with weeping and with groaning, because He no longer regards the offering or accepts it with favor from your hand.
14 "Yet you say, 'For what reason?' Because the LORD has been a witness between you and the wife of your youth, against whom you have dealt treacherously, though she is your companion and your wife by covenant.
15 "But not one has done so who has a remnant of the Spirit. And what did that one do while he was seeking a godly offspring? Take heed then, to your spirit, and let no one deal treacherously against the wife of your youth.
16 "For I hate divorce," says the LORD, the God of Israel, "and him who covers his garment with wrong," says the LORD of hosts. "So take heed to your spirit, that you do not deal treacherously."

Divorce is not in Gods plan I agree. But at the same time I could no longer tolerate her abuse and besides that she threw me out of the house!
 

InTheLight

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Pray for seeds to be sown in the hearts of the elect? Whatever for? They are already ELECTED. Are your efforts going to accelerate God's timetable?

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Rippon

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Padre interprets everything through his theological lens which I want no part of.
You in the world of the absurd.

Those five passages he quoted are from the Holy Word of God and any true Christian from the two streams of theology have the very same belief regarding them.
 
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Rippon

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You are correct. Reconciling with my wife would be best but she has to want it as I cannot force it. At the moment she has made no move to reconcile and wants no reconciliation.
Don't wait for her to make the first move. You need to initiate it. Humble yourself and do what's right.
 

InTheLight

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You in the world of the absurd.

Those five passages he quoted are from the Hoily Word of God

The rest of us spell it "Holy".

Gotcha. (How do you like it?)

Pendants gonna pedant.



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Salty

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Impossible to reconcile if she does not want too.
Isa 40:31 --But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not fain

Jer 14:22 --therefore we will wait upon thee: for thou hast made all these things.

Zeph 3:8 -- Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD
 

Salty

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Stop blaming your Wife. When you make comments about dating again and repeated public digs against her like this, it is apparent that you have little desire to reconcile:

Evan - simple yes or no question: DO YOU desire to reconcile with your wife?
 

evangelist6589

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Let's stop with this and get back on topic. This is a thread about asking for prayer for street evangelism.
 

Rolfe

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Let's stop with this and get back on topic. This is a thread about asking for prayer for street evangelism.

I think that the two are connected. Though Our Lord may do what He wishes, I think that those who run from Him generally do not see the blessing that they otherwise would have if they walk with Him.

My opinion only. By being unrepentant about leaving your Wife (and by not seeking restoration), you open yourself up to charges of hypocrisy when you preach the Law at others. I also think that there is the potential, because of that perception of hypocrisy, for the hindrance of the Gospel (examples: any prominent evangelist, TV preacher, or pastor who has had scandal).

My words may seem harsh, but I cannot think of a gentler way to write it.
 

padredurand

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Let's stop with this and get back on topic. This is a thread about asking for prayer for street evangelism.

Okay. Back on topic. Let’s discuss methodology. The key to your street preaching is to use the 10 Commandments as a way of bringing the sinner to a point of conviction and ultimately repentance.

I suggest you can only use 9 of them because the 7th seems to be a stumbling point for you. You defined adultery as, “Also I am against adultery. That is having sex before marriage, sleeping with another man's wife, etc..” in Post # 16. Jesus disagrees with you.

Matthew 5:28 NAS77
28 but I say to you, that everyone who looks on a woman to lust for her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.​

What are you looking for when you visit a dating site when you already have a wife? Granted, she kicked you to the curb but as long as she lives she is still part of your flesh - divorce or not. Did you read what John MacArthur said about marriage? “Marriage is an indissoluble union in which people are in an unbreakable gluing together and together they pursue one heart, one mind, one will in everything.” Source

You have no problem rejecting that interpretation of the marriage vows because you decided you were an abused spouse. Don’t you have a dictionary in that collection of books? Saying mean things to you is not abuse unless you had already concluded you wanted out of your “indissoluble union” because it was too hard to be part of it.

So, back on the streets, you resort to the Nine Commandments to bring folks to the point of repentant grief. I know you will insist you still use all Ten but that assumes you use the same dictionary to define adultery as you use to define abuse.

You’ve probably used this verse in your street preaching.

James 2:10 NAS77
10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.​

Why point out the Law? According to the WOTM FAQ page, “When a criminal stands guilty--on trial--it would be a mistake to speak to him of how the judge loves him and how compassionate the judge is. Better for a criminal to see the frown of the judge, so that he will see the seriousness of his crime, and find a place of true sorrow and grief for what he has done. It is then that the mercy of the judge should be revealed, no sooner.”

Where’s the sorrow and grief over your broken marriage? Why should we not expect to see the same from you as you wish to see in the folks who hear you preach?

“In repentance there is a bitter sweetness, or a sweet bitterness - which shall I call it? - of which, the more you have, the better it is for you. I can truly say that I hardly know a diviner joy than to lay my head in my Heavenly Father’s bosom and to say, ‘Father, I have sinned, but thou hast forgiven me; and, oh, I do love thee!” ~Spurgeon
 

InTheLight

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Okay. Back on topic. Let’s discuss methodology. The key to your street preaching is to use the 10 Commandments as a way of bringing the sinner to a point of conviction and ultimately repentance.

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I suggest you can only use 9 of them because the 7th seems to be a stumbling point for you.
So, back on the streets, you resort to the Nine Commandments to bring folks to the point of repentant grief. I know you will insist you still use all Ten but that assumes you use the same dictionary to define adultery as you use to define abuse.

Where’s the sorrow and grief over your broken marriage? Why should we not expect to see the same from you as you wish to see in the folks who hear you preach?

When John is out street preaching God will send someone that will confound him and lay bare this problem for him. Perhaps with a Q&A session where John is backed into a corner and can't answer. I'm sure it will happen.
 
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