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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Reformed1689, Mar 25, 2021.

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  1. Scripture More Accurately

    Scripture More Accurately Well-Known Member

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    Not true. Both of them were told by God not to eat the fruit:

    Gen. 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

    3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

    Eve used plural pronouns ("we," "ye") to speak of her knowledge of what God said. She knew that God had said that neither of them were to eat of it.

    The NT says explicitly that Eve transgressed, and she ate the fruit before Adam did:

    1 Tim. 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
     
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  2. Aaron

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    Christians can have fallacious ideas, and still be a disciple. But this is something folks should think about.
     
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    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

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    That's not something anyone should think about because it's not even a true statement.
     
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    I agree. Let's consider:

    And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure. Dan 2

    That has not taken place yet.

    And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

    That has not taken place yet. Rev 11
     
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    We have already come unto mount Zion, and are living in the New Jerusalem. Hebrews 12:18, 22 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, ... But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels.
     
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    Only problem with that is that Ezekiel and Zechariah all prophesy it.
    When the Bible doesn't fit my theology, guess which one goes out the window.
     
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    ???

    18 And Jesus came to them and spake unto them, saying, All authority hath been given unto me in heaven and on earth. Mt 28
     
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    Just waiting for one of you to make some definitive doctrinal statement about a premillennial reading of Revelation 20, instead of the general shock and awe and vague allusions to flavors of Premillennialism.
     
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    The disciples thought like Pharisees for quite some time. Peter however preached Amillennialism at Pentecost as did Paul. So old false concepts sometimes die hard.
     
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    Your idea of binding adds to Revelation. This is a serious offence against God's fair warning against doing so.
     
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    Again, we've already entered the New Jerusalem. Hebrews 12:18, 22 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, ... But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels.
     
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    Believe in No kingdom reign for the King?
     
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    To have earth restored to Paradise lost, and to have the Lord Jesus set up as its true and rightful king!
     
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    How do you know you are not deceived when the historic creeds condemned Premillennialism as heresy?
     
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    Peter agrees with you, as he links the Second Coming as the time when refreshing comes about, as all nations being blessed with Israel then accepting their rightful Messiah and King then!
     
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    They were deceived just as many calling themselves Christians are today.
     
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    Is the new heavens and a new earth then just symbolism?
     
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    How long after that was it until he drank of it? Any guesses? The kingdom was there since Jesus preached it.
     
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    Also pretty clear that cannot be here until its King returns to set it up!
     
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    Stop trying to 'see' with your carnal eyes Nicodemus, and peer Behind The Veil Of Moses.

    ...a spiritual kingdom that cannot be touched with the hand or seen with the eye:

    20 And being asked by the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God cometh, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Lu 17
     
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