My thoughts
Well, this will be my first post in the forum. I have been following this post over the last few days, and all in all I like the way everyone handles themselves. So, here is my 2 cents. :smilewinkgrin: In 2Co 5:18 it says, "To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing there trespasses unto them; and hath comitted unto us the word of reconciliation." (KJV)
I understand this to mean that God has called the world (meaning everyone) to himself. Taking this further I beleive that everyone has been "predestined" to become a son or daughter of God in Christ. Now we begin to see that our commission is real, and that there is real consequense to our action, or lack thereof.
Furthermore we see God's heart in that he called all, but some do not answer, some even openly and knowingly reject and curse him. We then begin to see him in the role of the loving father that scripture says he is, instead of the chess player strategically playing both sides. We begin to see that his heart may ache as our does, and that life does contain true tradgedy even in Gods eyes.
Lastly I look to my own heart, and I encourge you Dads and Moms out there to look to yours. The reason for this is beacause as I am new creature in Christ, my heart now reflects Gods heart. Gods will has become the will of my heart, and the desire of my heart. I know that if I had many children that it would be the desire of my heart for them to be with me always, and to have an intimate relationship with them. With unconditional love (1Co 13) for each of them I would do anything to prove my love for them. Lastly I would love them enough to give them a choice to reject my call, even though I knew it was a matter of life and death. Love cannot be control if it lines up with 1Co 13.
As our story unfolds we see another player. 2Co 4:4 says, "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them that believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." So now our call is even more compelling. We see that the chosen(predestined) sons and daughters have been blinded by satan (the god of this world). As the enlightened ones we now find ourselves witness to a crime. We must remember that the victims here are not just other Homosapiens, but rather they are realted to us, even if it was some distant part of us.
Mt 18:18 says , "Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." (KJV) We see here that as believers God has given us the power of binding and loosing, in Jesus name. We now find that we are operatives motivated and justified by our Captain and moved by the crime we are witnessing. Our commission is being spearheaded by the Holy Spirit. So we can go bodly and in faith to minister reconciliation to those that have been blinded.
Was I predestined to become a Son of God?
Yes!
Have there been others that were predestined and called that were blinded?
Sadly I believe so. I also beleieve that there are those that make conscious choices to stand in the way on the work of the Holy Spirit, and those called to minister reconcilliation.
So, have I missed what Paul was trying to say in Ro 8:29?
I don't think so, but there are many mysteries that I have yet to understand, and many more that I have not even contemplated. The beatuy of the New Testament in my eye is that it clearly defines the role we are to play as a son or daughter in Christ. It then goes on to reveal Gods will for our life, and the promises that he has for us. As for me I will continue to live my life victoriously and openly in front of a world that needs to know what true Love is. When they ask me what is different about me, and want to know how I live such a great life, I will tell them about a loving God who found a young man that wanted more out of this life, and assurance of the next life. The best part is that I will have the joy of letting them know that the gift of salvation, and the freedom of a new life in Christ was bought and paid for and is available to all who would dare believe in an unblieving world.
I agree with Annsni
Well, this will be my first post in the forum. I have been following this post over the last few days, and all in all I like the way everyone handles themselves. So, here is my 2 cents. :smilewinkgrin: In 2Co 5:18 it says, "To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing there trespasses unto them; and hath comitted unto us the word of reconciliation." (KJV)
I understand this to mean that God has called the world (meaning everyone) to himself. Taking this further I beleive that everyone has been "predestined" to become a son or daughter of God in Christ. Now we begin to see that our commission is real, and that there is real consequense to our action, or lack thereof.
Furthermore we see God's heart in that he called all, but some do not answer, some even openly and knowingly reject and curse him. We then begin to see him in the role of the loving father that scripture says he is, instead of the chess player strategically playing both sides. We begin to see that his heart may ache as our does, and that life does contain true tradgedy even in Gods eyes.
Lastly I look to my own heart, and I encourge you Dads and Moms out there to look to yours. The reason for this is beacause as I am new creature in Christ, my heart now reflects Gods heart. Gods will has become the will of my heart, and the desire of my heart. I know that if I had many children that it would be the desire of my heart for them to be with me always, and to have an intimate relationship with them. With unconditional love (1Co 13) for each of them I would do anything to prove my love for them. Lastly I would love them enough to give them a choice to reject my call, even though I knew it was a matter of life and death. Love cannot be control if it lines up with 1Co 13.
As our story unfolds we see another player. 2Co 4:4 says, "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them that believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." So now our call is even more compelling. We see that the chosen(predestined) sons and daughters have been blinded by satan (the god of this world). As the enlightened ones we now find ourselves witness to a crime. We must remember that the victims here are not just other Homosapiens, but rather they are realted to us, even if it was some distant part of us.
Mt 18:18 says , "Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." (KJV) We see here that as believers God has given us the power of binding and loosing, in Jesus name. We now find that we are operatives motivated and justified by our Captain and moved by the crime we are witnessing. Our commission is being spearheaded by the Holy Spirit. So we can go bodly and in faith to minister reconciliation to those that have been blinded.
Was I predestined to become a Son of God?
Yes!
Have there been others that were predestined and called that were blinded?
Sadly I believe so. I also beleieve that there are those that make conscious choices to stand in the way on the work of the Holy Spirit, and those called to minister reconcilliation.
So, have I missed what Paul was trying to say in Ro 8:29?
I don't think so, but there are many mysteries that I have yet to understand, and many more that I have not even contemplated. The beatuy of the New Testament in my eye is that it clearly defines the role we are to play as a son or daughter in Christ. It then goes on to reveal Gods will for our life, and the promises that he has for us. As for me I will continue to live my life victoriously and openly in front of a world that needs to know what true Love is. When they ask me what is different about me, and want to know how I live such a great life, I will tell them about a loving God who found a young man that wanted more out of this life, and assurance of the next life. The best part is that I will have the joy of letting them know that the gift of salvation, and the freedom of a new life in Christ was bought and paid for and is available to all who would dare believe in an unblieving world.
I agree with Annsni
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