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Predictions/Opinions - 2018 Midterm Elections

Calminian

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There is no draft currently

You never know what the future might bring. There may be a need soon. And if 18 year olds don't have the right to bear arms, the draft age should 21+.

Also, women and men should be subject, equally. I'm sure you agree, being for equal rights.
 

Salty

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That's not how the military works.

If you're single and 18, you are immature and must keep all personally owned firearms in the unit arms room. If you're 18 and married than you can get paid to live off post and have as many guns laying around as you want.

See the logical consistency of that? :Roflmao

Not positive - but even if you are required to maintain your AO in the barracks - and live off post at your own expense - you probably can maintain a weapon at your residence.
 

Calminian

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BUT 18 year olds MUST register for the draft! And if they dont - they will not be eligible for federal and/or State/Commonwealth benefits.

Did not know that, but absolutely they should be exempt until 21 if they lose their 2nd amendment rights. In fact, let's just raise the age of adulthood to 21. All under 21 should be considered minors.

Then I'll go along with this whole gun purchasing age movement.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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You never know what the future might bring. There may be a need soon. And if 18 year olds don't have the right to bear arms, the draft age should 21+.

Also, women and men should be subject, equally. I'm sure you agree, being for equal rights.
Not totally...most women do not have the body strength to drag a wounded man off the battle field. That is a reality that has to be faced in combat situations.
 

Squire Robertsson

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Allowing non-citizens to serve in our military is a long-standing tradition. It goes back to Lafayette, von Steuben, and the Union Irish regiments of the ACW. I served with Filipinos who were recruited in Manila. Mind you that program was for the Commissaryman and Steward rates.
How the heck are we allowing foreign nationals to serve in our military?
 

Calminian

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Allowing non-citizens to serve in our military is a long-standing tradition. It goes back to Lafayette, von Steuben, and the Union Irish regiments of the ACW. I served with Filipinos who were recruited in Manila. Mind you that program was for the Commissaryman and Steward rates.

Appreciate the info. It was, well, informative.

So let me as, did these non-citizens you served with sneak into the country illegally? Just seems to me to be a security risk. Anyone can just sneak in illegally and serve in our military? I could roll with legal visitors, I suppose.
 

Squire Robertsson

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The Filipinos walked into the Coast Guard recruiting office at (I assume) Subic Bay Navy Base.
So let me ask did these non-citizens you served with sneak into the country illegally? Just seems to me to be a security risk. Anyone can just sneak in illegally and serve in our military? I could roll with legal visitors, I suppose.
 

Calminian

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Squire Robertsson said:
You mean to tell me you are ignorant of contributions of the Marquis de Lafayette and Baron von Steuben? They both were pillars of the American Revolution. As for the Filipinos, they walked into the Coast Guard recruiting office at (I assume) Subic Bay Navy Base.

Yes, I'm completely unaware of them. Please enlighten me.

But now your'e going all the way back to the Revolution. I'm simply asking if those you served with were illegal aliens or simply non-citizens with legal residency (or something of that nature).

Illegals are not permitted (legally) to enlist - but they must register for the draft!

That would seem much more logical.
 

James Flagg

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Anyone have a prediction for the Lamb vs. Saccone special election in Pennsylvania?

Tim "I'm Pro-Life Except for my Pregnant Mistress" Murphy's legacy surely isn't helping.
 

Baptist Believer

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I'm simply asking if those you served with were illegal aliens or simply non-citizens with legal residency (or something of that nature)..
My great uncle registered for the draft in World War I as a non-citizen. I suspect it was part of the amnesty program and he gained citizenship a few years later. I know he did not serve in Europe, probably because he was of Austrian descent. I don't know what he did stateside.
 

Squire Robertsson

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It would seem you quoted my uneditied post. I answered you question in my edited post #53. Please see wiki for the Marquis de Lafayette (FYI, he's a big enough cheese to have over 30 places in the US named after him) and Baron von Steuben.
Yes, I'm completely unaware of them. Please enlighten me.

But now your'e going all the way back to the Revolution. I'm simply asking if those you served with were illegal aliens or simply non-citizens with legal residency (or something of that nature).



That would seem much more logical.
 

Calminian

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It would seem you quoted my uneditied post. I answered you question in my edited post #53. Please see wiki for the Marquis de Lafayette (FYI, he's a big enough cheese to have over 30 places in the US named after him) and Baron von Steuben.

I'm not disputing anything you're saying just asking you to expand on your point. You said filipinos walked in. I assume they were not citizens. Also assuming they were not illegally in our country. You also mentioned the men above. Just trying to tie the point together. Expand if you wish.
 

Squire Robertsson

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As I understand it, the Filipinos were recruited at U.S. Naval Base Subic Bay. So, they only left the Philippines after they joined.
I'm not disputing anything you're saying just asking you to expand on your point. You said Filipinos walked in. I assume they were not citizens. Also assuming they were not illegally in our country. You also mentioned the men above. Just trying to tie the point together. Expand if you wish.
 
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