Presbyterians Ordain Homosexual Minister!

[Salty]

Here's a good one for you:

http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/dictionary/index.cfm?id=33029

:laugh:

Yea good one - thats like asking a person on welfare if the rich are paying enough taxes


Wait, I just realized something. What does independent SBC churches have to do with Homosexuality in the PCUSA?

Lets get back on subject. (Matt - if you want to - start a new thread on IFB)

 

[John Toppass]

What would happen if your church chose a woman or homosexual as a pastor?

What would happen if your church chose to spend the offerings to open a business such as a liquor store?

The church (which I would not stay a member of) would probably not be allowed to remain, since they no longer are in doctrinal agreement. But the SBC could not stop them from doing such because the SBC has no authority over what that church does.

In my opinion the church knew that their doctrine had changed and become false so they initiated the split.

 

[AresMan]

There are liberal and conservative branches of Presbyterian churches just as there are of Baptist churches.

I seriously doubt OPC (Orthodox Presbyterian) churches would do such (think Coral Ridge and Dr. D. James Kennedy), but PCA/PCUSA are considerably more "liberal" than OPC.

 

[jaigner]

That is too bad on both counts.

Both counts? You'd rather he be UU?

 

[jaigner]

I would guess that a woman pastor or a homosexual pastor is probably not a true church, if it it is a true church it barely resembles a true church. They are in error and probably are at risk of no longer being a church.

AAAAAHHHHHHH!!! You're equating female pastors with homosexual pastors?

AAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!

One is okay biblically, the other is not.

 

[annsni]

AAAAAHHHHHHH!!! You're equating female pastors with homosexual pastors?

AAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!

One is okay biblically, the other is not.

Umm - not in any Bible I have read.

 

[Jim1999]

Here we go again!

Cheers,

Jim

 

[Luke2427]

That is amazingly sad. We were members of a PCUSA before we came to our current church and my husband was an elder there. We were very active in fighting this stuff back in the 80s but I believed it was just a matter of time. I believe there will be a number of PCUSA churches that are going to seek to jump to the PCA at this point. I hope my old church will do so!

I agree. If this is so, this ordaining a homosexual will turn out to be a good thing- not intrinsically, but because of what will result from it.

The PCA is a good movement and could use the help.

 

[matt wade]

The church (which I would not stay a member of) would probably not be allowed to remain, since they no longer are in doctrinal agreement. But the SBC could not stop them from doing such because the SBC has no authority over what that church does.

In my opinion the church knew that their doctrine had changed and become false so they initiated the split.

So, it sounds just about the same as any other denomination. The central office can't force the local church to do something, but it can withdraw membership from them. That's exactly my point. How many churches follow what the central office says in order to maintain fellowship. Quite a few I suspect.

 

[annsni]

So, it sounds just about the same as any other denomination. The central office can't force the local church to do something, but it can withdraw membership from them. That's exactly my point. How many churches follow what the central office says in order to maintain fellowship. Quite a few I suspect.

Although in the Presbyterian church I was in, the denomination owned the building/property/contents. So we would be free to leave - with the clothes on our backs. That would absolutely be different in the Baptist church. Not sure if it's the same in other denominations.

 

[Jerome]

I believe there will be a number of PCUSA churches that are going to seek to jump to the PCA at this point. I hope my old church will do so!

I agree. . . .The PCA is a good movement and could use the help.

I hope it ditches ALL the errors of Presbyterianism and becomes Baptist!