President Trump Cans DEFSEC Immediately

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I like Mattis and don't like the way this all came down.

Mattis resigned over their differences, and that's what he should have done, but it was unprofessional and not military like for him to imply a diss of the President's foreign policies in his resignation. He should do that in person. Call it professional courtesy.

So Trump released him immediately instead of a couple of months down the road. I understand this , as well. However, I believe he should have let him work out his resignation time. Call it professional courtesy.

They were both wrong. There are no winners.

I hope so , too. OTOH are we supposed to leave them there forever? When is the right time? It doesn't appear that any of the naysayers have an answer for that question.

The same goes for Iraq and Afghanistan.

One thing we should have learned from all this, islam is incompatible with any form of democracy that we would approve of. Couple that with an impossibly tribal society, and we see the impossibility of the entire situation. But he destroyed Obama's creation, ISIS. And that was his goal. Obama couldn't, or wouldn't, do it. Trump did.

Given all that, when do we leave? Or do we just stay there forever?

The buck stopped at the President's desk and he was not afraid to make the decision. Good for him. He is anything but indecisive. Now, I for one, am willing to see what happens. I'm sure we won't like it, but the alternative is an eternal presence in Syria or carry out Obama's stated policy of regime change there...and still stay forever. Which?

Is either what we want?

A lot to agree with there. Perhaps Mattis should have been allowed to stay; OTOH, with such publicly expressed opposition, his private opposition may have rightly been deemed too much.

Any historian worth his salt should have known this about the Islamic world--Islam and democracy don't mix. But looking at the reactions following 9/11, we may have a dearth of those, at least of ones allowed a voice.

The Middle East has long looked like a no win situation, probably especially so for the Kurds.

 

[church mouse guy]

A lot to agree with there. Perhaps Mattis should have been allowed to stay; OTOH, with such publicly expressed opposition, his private opposition may have rightly been deemed too much.

Any historian worth his salt should have known this about the Islamic world--Islam and democracy don't mix. But looking at the reactions following 9/11, we may have a dearth of those, at least of ones allowed a voice.

The Middle East has long looked like a no win situation, probably especially so for the Kurds.

Mattis was a master of pigeon holing things or dragging his feet or slow marching things. He wanted transgenders in the military in spite of the horrific expense for mentally ill people half of whom commit suicide. He was worried about the Kurds, as we all are, and he wanted the rules of engagement in Afghanistan that is only causing us deaths. He served some 700 days, about the average length of time that a Defense Secretary served under Ob@m@, who had a sharp crease in his pants that sent a tingle up Chris Matthews' leg, or something. Trump likes a lot of changes in his staff and I think that part of the turnover is a response to the lying Democrats and their savage daily attacks on law and order.

The person of real concern is General Flynn, who was entrapped by the yellow Mueller and charged with lying for what was not even a lapse of memory. Here we have an American General recounting legal meetings in the discharge of his duties to a newly-elected President, and the FBI having wiretapped the meeting at Ob@m@'s orders and then the FBI charges the American General with perjury because he does not recount the incident verbatim with the illegal wiretap.

Let's remember Mueller as the American Robespierre.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Mattis was a master of pigeon holing things or dragging his feet or slow marching things. He wanted transgenders in the military in spite of the horrific expense for mentally ill people half of whom commit suicide. He was worried about the Kurds, as we all are, and he wanted the rules of engagement in Afghanistan that is only causing us deaths. He served some 700 days, about the average length of time that a Defense Secretary served under Ob@m@, who had a sharp crease in his pants that sent a tingle up Chris Matthews' leg, or something. Trump likes a lot of changes in his staff and I think that part of the turnover is a response to the lying Democrats and their savage daily attacks on law and order.

The person of real concern is General Flynn, who was entrapped by the yellow Mueller and charged with lying for what was not even a lapse of memory. Here we have an American General recounting legal meetings in the discharge of his duties to a newly-elected President, and the FBI having wiretapped the meeting at Ob@m@'s orders and then the FBI charges the American General with perjury because he does not recount the incident verbatim with the illegal wiretap.

Let's remember Mueller as the American Robespierre.

We will see how this plays out in Jan 2019.

 

[church mouse guy]

We will see how this plays out in Jan 2019.

Well, your ideas are in the majority now.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Well, your ideas are in the majority now.

They always where

 

[church mouse guy]

They always where

Well, I wrote you down as fine with the railroading and framing of General Flynn.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Well, I wrote you down as fine with the railroading and framing of General Flynn.

He should be hung as a traitor

 

[carpro]

He should be hung as a traitor

Right after John Kerry, Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Right after John Kerry, Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

They are not the ones in prison awaiting sentencing

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

They are not the ones in prison awaiting sentencing

Yep, too bad, but the deep state protects them. Doesn’t mean they don’t deserve hanging.

 

[carpro]

They are not the ones in prison awaiting sentencing

They should be.

Flynn isn't in prison either.

 

[Use of Time]

Yep, too bad, but the deep state protects them. Doesn’t mean they don’t deserve hanging.

Righteous Temperamce thinks we should have murdered politicians he didn’t like. Ironic username choice.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

In this thread, so did someone else. In your typical partisan manner you ignore re it and focus on the other, with a red-herring personal slam.

Good use of time ?

 

[Use of Time]

In this thread, so did someone else. In your typical partisan manner you ignore re it and focus on the other, with a red-herring personal slam.

Good use of time ?

Flynn is an actual criminal. The others are not. And you can let me worry about my use of time.

 

[church mouse guy]

Flynn is an actual criminal. The others are not. And you can let me worry about my use of time.

You are wasting your time because you cannot say what Flynn did wrong other than talk to Mueller without a lawyer. You should have more respect for those who served. Mueller certainly has no respect for those who served.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Flynn is an actual criminal. The others are not. And you can let me worry about my use of time.

Oh I think Hillary Is a criminal and her acts were covered by the FBI. That’s what Comey said in his testimony. If lying to Congress is a crime, Hillary is a criminal.

 

[Use of Time]

Oh I think Hillary Is a criminal and her acts were covered by the FBI. That’s what Comey said in his testimony. If lying to Congress is a crime, Hillary is a criminal.

So hang her?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Good enough for Flynn, good enough for her.

 

[Use of Time]

Good enough for Flynn, good enough for her.

Nobody on the list has done anything worthy of a death sentence. “You think” the FBI covered stuff up. Flynn plead guilty.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Sigh. Try to keep up.

My original point stands. You are as one-sided and you ignore evidence contrary to your stance as anyone else here.