President Trump is the victor of the 2020 election by default…by law…and to the U.S. Constitution.

[Reformed1689]

Ok, I don’t know when order came down. But if ballots received after election but prior to order were placed in the count, then there is no way to measure it, so there’s no remedy the court could consider.

peace to you

Sure they could. They could order a runoff.

 

[Reformed1689]

None of those excuses make any valid sense and should satisfy no judge concerned with a fair election.

Covid is no longer a valid excuse for anyone anymore. Death rate is falling day by day.

 

[canadyjd]

Except that's not according to the law. They had a right to observe and if you aren't letting them observe that is keeping them out.

That is a good argument for a judge to examine. The judge decided they had to allow them to be within 6 feet. They did. There is nothing further to be considered concerning over observing the count, unless a recount is mandated, which I hope happens.

peace to you

 

[Reformed1689]

That is a good argument for a judge to examine. The judge decided they had to allow them to be within 6 feet. They did. There is nothing further to be considered concerning over observing the count, unless a recount is mandated, which I hope happens.

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A state judge decided that, not SCOTUS. You can't observe a ballot from six feet away in any meaningful way. Perhaps the idiot PA judge should lookup the definition of the word observe.

 

[canadyjd]

Covid is no longer a valid excuse for anyone anymore. Death rate is falling day by day.

A judge would have to decide if it’s a valid argument.

peace to you

 

[canadyjd]

A state judge decided that, not SCOTUS. You can't observe a ballot from six feet away in any meaningful way. Perhaps the idiot PA judge should lookup the definition of the word observe.

My understanding of PA law is that “observers” don’t have authority to challenge ballots in any way.

peace to you

 

[Reformed1689]

A judge would have to decide if it’s a valid argument.

peace to you

It's not because there are no provisions in the law for that argument.

 

[canadyjd]

It's not because there are no provisions in the law for that argument.

Then everyone voices opinions that will change nothing. Waste of time to even make an argument that has no basis in law.

peace to you

 

[Reformed1689]

My understanding of PA law is that “observers” don’t have authority to challenge ballots in any way.

peace to you

Here is the law:

(2) Each political party or political body represented on the official ballot may have one technically qualified person, authorized by the county chairman and deputized by the county board of elections, present during the testing of the central automatic tabulating equipment and the actual counting of the ballot or district totals cards. Such persons shall be allowed to make independent tests of the equipment prior to, during, and following the vote count: Provided, however, That such testing shall in no way interfere with the official tabulation of the ballots and district totals cards. In addition, each political party or political body shall be entitled to have observers at the central tabulation center, in a number, as determined by the county board of elections, sufficient to permit accurate observation of the receipt, handling, duplication, and processing of all ballots and district totals cards.

Watchers allowed in the polling place under the provisions of this act, shall be permitted to keep a list of voters and shall be entitled to challenge any person making application to vote and to require proof of his qualifications, as provided by this act.

 

[Reformed1689]

Then everyone voices opinions that will change nothing. Waste of time to even make an argument that has no basis in law.

peace to you

Then why did you say they might make that argument?

 

[Baptist Believer]

And my bet is that they were not segregated and you can't unscramble the egg.

They were segregated long before the order was issued.

 

[Reformed1689]

They were segregated long before the order was issued.

Sure they were

 

[Baptist Believer]

Covid is no longer a valid excuse for anyone anymore. Death rate is falling day by day.

Cases are spiking to new heights. Half of my office is out on quarantine at the moment and the rest of us are concerned because most people here have been convinced by right-wing disinformation that masks do no good. As someone who is highly susceptible to a severe case of COVID-19, I may not survive it if I get it.

 

[Reformed1689]

Cases are spiking to new heights. Half of my office is out on quarantine at the moment and the rest of us are concerned because most people here have been convinced by right-wing disinformation that masks do no good. As someone who is highly susceptible to a severe case of COVID-19, I may not survive it if I get it.

Cases are spiking for two main reasons. 1. More testing. 2. Tests have been proven to be oversensitive. The interesting thing is that cases are skyrocketing but deaths are not. If you are highly susceptible to have complications then take precautions to protect yourself but the rest of the country shouldn't suffer for it.

 

[canadyjd]

Here is the law:

(2) Each political party or political body represented on the official ballot may have one technically qualified person, authorized by the county chairman and deputized by the county board of elections, present during the testing of the central automatic tabulating equipment and the actual counting of the ballot or district totals cards. Such persons shall be allowed to make independent tests of the equipment prior to, during, and following the vote count: Provided, however, That such testing shall in no way interfere with the official tabulation of the ballots and district totals cards. In addition, each political party or political body shall be entitled to have observers at the central tabulation center, in a number, as determined by the county board of elections, sufficient to permit accurate observation of the receipt, handling, duplication, and processing of all ballots and district totals cards.

Watchers allowed in the polling place under the provisions of this act, shall be permitted to keep a list of voters and shall be entitled to challenge any person making application to vote and to require proof of his qualifications, as provided by this act.

This wasn’t a polling place. It was a ballot processing center.

peace to you

 

[canadyjd]

Then why did you say they might make that argument?

Any “argument” must be before a judge for any meaningful action to be taken.

I thought that was clear.

peace to you

 

[Reformed1689]

This wasn’t a polling place. It was a ballot processing center.

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And the above portion was both about ballot centers and polling locations.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

This wasn’t a polling place. It was a ballot processing center.

That looks like a non sequitur. Are you responding to what the law says? If so, read it again more carefully, as it even uses your language highlighted above, e.g., "processing of all ballots."

 

[canadyjd]

And the above portion was both about ballot centers and polling locations.

The statement in this law concerning “challenging” is with respect to polling places and folks making application to vote.

Observing the “processing of ballots” doesn’t mean they can challenge anything.

peace to you

 

[Reformed1689]

The statement in this law concerning “challenging” is with respect to polling places and folks making application to vote.

Observing the “processing of ballots” doesn’t mean they can challenge anything.

peace to you

Correct they get the information and document it to give to those who can. Your argument is invalid.