President Trump's Cabinet

[Benjamin]

Government should not be involved in healthcare. Period.

Get real. Who is to protect our food supply and guard against the pharmaceutical companies pushing harmful easy quick fixes for the symptoms caused by poor and irresponsible lifestyles?

No, it is not. That commission has no power to control revenues or spending.

That is a half-truth, (When presented as the whole truth, becomes an untruth.) They are to report to the President who does have the power to make these changes.


SERIOUSLY! You object to this change in the HHS leadership?

From this:

To this:

How much more clear can the choice be?!

 

[Rye]

...I do, and I truly believe he'll never be confirmed.

Under normal circumstances, I would tend to agree. There are too many controversies surrounding Gaetz. However, we’ll have to wait and see if Trump can get some of these republican senators under his thumb. I think the chances are 50/50.

 

[KenH]

Get real. Who is to protect our food supply and guard against the pharmaceutical companies pushing harmful easy quick fixes for the symptoms caused by poor and irresponsible lifestyles?

"The state therefore has two natural functions, functions essential to the existence of any peaceful, ordered society: to protect the rights of citizens against violent or fraudulent assault, and to judge in conflicts of right with right. It has a further third function, which is another aspect of the first, that is, to protect its citizens from assault by foreign powers. These three functions are expressed by three powers: the police power, which protects the citizen against domestic violence; the military power, which protects the citizen against violence from abroad; and the courts of law, which judge between rights and rights, as well as sharing with the police power the protection of the citizen against domestic violence.
…
But since this institution must possess a monopoly of legal physical force, to give to it in addition any further power is fraught with danger; that monopoly gives to the state so much power that its natural functions should be its maximum functions."

- excerpt from Frank S. Meyer's In Defense of Freedom: A Conservative Credo, published in 1962

They are to report to the President who does have the power to make these changes.

The president does not have the revenue power nor the spending power. Those two powers still belong to the Congress.

SERIOUSLY! You object to this change in the HHS leadership?

I wouldn't give you a plug nickel for either one of those people.

 

[kyredneck]

Get real.

@KenH is just like @Earth Wind and Fire in his hatred for Trump. He wouldn't speak well of him even if he had a cure for cancer, or had a solution for whirled peas, IMO.

 

[KenH]

his hatred for Trump

I hate no person. I left the two-party paradigm in 1980 and joined the Libertarian Party, even ran as a Libertarian for the U.S. House in 2014 in the fourth district of Arkansas - photo from the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette attached.

 

[KenH]

Let me make this clear to everyone - I do not agree with government policies that interfere with free enterprise, free trade, individual liberty, or personal responsibility - regardless of whether it's a Republican policy or a Democratic policy that does so.

If Kamala Harris had won, then I would be opposing her policies that did so just as I do Donald Trump.

 

[KenH]

If the Articles of Confederation of 1781 were still in effect, then Americans wouldn't give two hoots who was president, as it would not be the de facto kingship it has become today. It wasn't all that long ago, during my lifetime, that people were more concerned about who was in the Congress, not who the president was, as the Congress had not ceded pretty much all of its Constitutional powers to the presidency.

 

[Benjamin]

@KenH is just like @Earth Wind and Fire in his hatred for Trump. He wouldn't speak well of him even if he had a cure for cancer, or had a solution for whirled peas, IMO.

It appears that he’s lost his sense of reason in his pursuit of negativity, in anything that doesn’t fit his peculiar model of the perfect government, and a lack of critical thinking leads him into pessimism.

Let me make this clear to everyone - I do not agree with government policies that interfere with free enterprise, free trade, individual liberty, or personal responsibility - regardless of whether it's a Republican policy or a Democratic policy that does so.

If Kamala Harris had won, then I would be opposing her policies that did so just as I do Donald Trump.

@ken, I think you need to be aware that your pessimism is off the charts, honestly, your disposition is kind of a downer to be around even on a message board, I can hardly imagine what it would do to one's spirit to constantly encircle oneself in such glumness, day after day. You should consider correcting that path.

Seriously.

A good exercise for you would be to find one positive thing about each of Trump’s picks that you don’t have to be pessimistic about. Whatever you practice you get better at. I challenge you to show me some optimism, I understand that this might be difficult and out of character for you but you really can practice adjusting your thinking patterns which will help you avoid becoming a curmudgeon in your old age. You don’t want that. Find a little balance and a little peace in that now a rare opportunity exists where some real hope has been restored in a better direction for our country than it has been for a very long time. You might feel better.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

@KenH is just like @Earth Wind and Fire in his hatred for Trump. He wouldn't speak well of him even if he had a cure for cancer, or had a solution for whirled peas, IMO.

I worked in the construction trade in NYC for over 20 years so I am well versed to Don Trump and his dirty tricks so yea I don’t like the man, didn’t ever vote for the guy and don’t trust him. I’m not a MAGA supporter so I’m skeptical of his choices. Now to hate Trump as Kentucky suggests is not true. But I would and still believe there were better choices for President of the USA.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Let me make this clear to everyone - I do not agree with government policies that interfere with free enterprise, free trade, individual liberty, or personal responsibility - regardless of whether it's a Republican policy or a Democratic policy that does so.

If Kamala Harris had won, then I would be opposing her policies that did so just as I do Donald Trump.

That is your right as a citizen to have your own opinions on anything that politicians do… it’s a free country after all that is said and done. And if anyone here on this board doesn’t agree that you should have a voice then I’d encourage them to seek a different venue where they do not encourage free expression, and are mindless cheerleaders… thankfully this isn’t that, rather we encourage debate.

 

[KenH]

a little peace in that now a rare opportunity exists where some real hope has been restored in a better direction for our country

As a dear friend of mine, and a conservative person, posted recently on a social media site:

"if only
they would praise our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ...
if only they would thank our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ...
if only they would rejoice over the victory accomplished by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ...
who are "they"
I'm talking about? unbelievers, heretics, atheists?
no.
I'm talking about professing believers who praise a man's victory, his promises...
Psalm 146:3
Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of a man in whom there is no help."

 

[KenH]

That is your right as a citizen to have your own opinions on anything that politicians do

I have found that many people are not interested in hearing other people's opinions; no, they want to hear their opinion coming out of your mouth.

 

[KenH]

hat your pessimism is off the charts

My optimism is here:

 

[KenH]

And if anyone here on this board doesn’t agree that you should have a voice

I am not surprised at how some among MAGA who are Christians, at least as far as the word "Christian" is commonly used in the United States, think that Trump being elected again will usher in unicorns and rainbows. Those type of folks did the same thing back in 1994 when the Republicans took control of both houses of Congress for the first time in decades. They went from talking about how awful things were and about the return of Christ Jesus, to talking about how they were going to fix all the stuff that they didn't like in the United States.

MAGA and Progressives have much the same mentality - if they can just get the right person in power, and if he can be given lots and lots of power, then he can fix all the stuff that they don't like. They don't think that government is the problem, as Ronald Reagan said; no, they think the problem is just not having the "right" people, their "people", their political "saviors", in government to run things.

Well, I have news for those folks. Donald Trump, or anyone else, is not going to solve all their problems, governmental or otherwise, and, even if Trump could, it's all going bye-bye; just as the global warming Cassandras, even if they could actually fix the climate systems of this planet, are going to see their efforts, even if successful, go bye-bye. Which is not to say that we shouldn't strive for improvements while on this earth, and I consider government to be a very, very poor instrument for doing so, but that God's elect should keep their priority on Christ and His accomplished salvation on their behalf and their future with Him:

2 Peter 3:10-13 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

 

[KenH]

I can hardly imagine what it would do to one's spirit to constantly encircle oneself in such glumness, day after day.

I find nothing to be glum about this, where my hope is:

Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I don’t have any allegiances to any political party, to any man, to any company etc. that is reserved for my God, my wife and family and little else.

I’ve found that those that rely on others , especially of the promices of politicians are idealists who generally can’t or won’t come to reality, nor the world as it is. Since I believe that angels habitate both this world as well as the celestial realm, it’s my belief they denounce idealists as fools and more than any sinner or any sort of earthly criminal. It’s my strong opinion that in the future and beginning now that the United States will be ruled & ultimately destroyed by this type.

 

[Benjamin]

Okay, I think we've heard enough of Ken's Christian/political ideological views and EMF's opposition to anything Trump.

Can we get back to the Topic of of the New Presidents Cabinet?

Or do some people on this board believe it is their right to derail every tread that goes against their narratives?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Okay, I think we've heard enough of Ken's Christian/political ideological views and EMF's opposition to anything Trump.

Can we get back to the Topic of of the New Presidents Cabinet?

Or do some people on this board believe it is their right to derail every tread that goes against their narratives?

Boo hoo… hey, then don’t criticize others stance and opinions, cause ya know what opinions are like, right. BTW I’m not totally opposed to Trump but I personally don’t believe he is the right person for the job. Ron DeSantis now… military experience, true conservative, experienced running a state, younger and more educated, blah blah. Trust me, he will be the next president

And sure, let’s get back to your original poll. I believe Telsi has what it takes, and the team of Musk & Vivik have the brains to advise DT, and that Homan guy could siphon out the good people from the freeloaders, but Matt G is a thumbs down for AG for obvious reasons. The rest of them are meh… I will leave it at that.

 

[Benjamin]

I believe Mat Gaetz' confirmation will be a war. The Left is terrified of losing their corrupt control of power in the DOJ as well as true justice being implemented.

But, this is an important and powerful way to put an end to the corruption that has been used as an attack weapon from those who love lies and justice department abuse, and would understandably be opposed by them. This fight will reveal the true colors of those who call themselves Republicans and will be a test of whether or not they will honor the will of the people they represent.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I believe Mat Gaetz' confirmation will be a war. The Left is terrified of losing their corrupt control of power in the DOJ as well as true justice being implemented.

But, this is an important and powerful way to put an end to the corruption that has been used as an attack weapon from those who love lies and justice department abuse, and would understandably be opposed by them. This fight will reveal the true colors of those who call themselves Republicans and will be a test of whether or not they will honor the will of the people they represent.

Please Benjamin, stop … your making me laugh! Who do you honestly believe rules any nation? The apparent rulers or the real ones behind the scenes who manipulate the nations finances for their own benefit? Mr. Trump is as helpless as you and I. He can only give people slogans, and slogans, it would appear, are what the people want… not asking themselves who really runs things. Open your eyes… what’s the Fed doing, what’s Jamie Diamond thinking about the business economy& that would be a start for you.