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Preventing God's Will

JonShaff

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You believe that Christ died on the cross for your sins, according to the scriptures, that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day, according to the scriptures.
and why again does it take regeneration to believe the implications of what you posted?
 

JonShaff

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Nope. Legitimate question. Care to try to answer it?
It's NOT a legitimate question. Why does one person believe this vs. Another believe that. That I will never be able to answer in totality. One Believed and the Other didn't.
 

JonShaff

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God does not need salvation. You did.

Philippians 1:19 For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,

Philippians 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Romans 13:11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

Exactly! First God's regenerating Grace, then we believe, repent, and obey.

Yes, I do, and am heartened to see that now you do too! :)
God saved me, I didn't save myself. Quit playing with semantics.
 

TCassidy

Late-Administator Emeritus
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God saved me, I didn't save myself.
I did not say nor imply otherwise.

Quit playing with semantics.
I am not. It was YOU who responded to my statement:
"So your salvation is based on YOUR faith and YOUR yielding" by saying "First, it's not my salvation, It's God's."

I pointed out where the Scriptures say it is our salvation.

So, it would seem the only one playing semantics is you. :)
 

TCassidy

Late-Administator Emeritus
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It's NOT a legitimate question. Why does one person believe this vs. Another believe that. That I will never be able to answer in totality. One Believed and the Other didn't.
Exactly! Your theology is too deficient to be able to answer the question.

Why did "one believe and the other didn't?"
 

TCassidy

Late-Administator Emeritus
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and why again does it take regeneration to believe the implications of what you posted?
Because the unsaved person doesn’t accept the things of God’s Spirit, because they are foolish to him, and he can’t understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 

JonShaff

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I did not say nor imply otherwise.

I am not. It was YOU who responded to my statement:
"So your salvation is based on YOUR faith and YOUR yielding" by saying "First, it's not my salvation, It's God's."

I pointed out where the Scriptures say it is our salvation.

So, it would seem the only one playing semantics is you. :)
Exactly! Your theology is too deficient to be able to answer the question.

Why did "one believe and the other didn't?"
Not to me. Only to an Arminian. I can answer the question. :)
You may answer it, that doesn't make you Correct
 

JonShaff

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Because the unsaved person doesn’t accept the things of God’s Spirit, because they are foolish to him, and he can’t understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
So unsaved people can't believe, reason, yield their will...OK man.

You must deny a lot of Scripture to develop your theological framework. [Edited: Insult]
 
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TCassidy

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So unsaved people can't believe, reason, yield their will...OK man.

You must deny a lot of Scripture to develop your theological framework. Your theology is a scam.
Uh, you are aware, are you not, that what I posted, and what you disagreed with, is a direct quote from 1st Corinthians chapter 2?
 

JonShaff

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"It's a mystery" is the go-to cop out answer that Calvinists give when they can't answer a question. I just thought I'd throw it out there for TCassidy.
Ah I gotcha. I just assumed we were talking about a person's thought process...which is something I can not discern. Judging motives in next to impossible.
 

JonShaff

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Uh, you are aware, are you not, that what I posted, and what you disagreed with, is a direct quote from 1st Corinthians chapter 2?
Totally aware. The burden of proof is on you to explain that that Scripture is speaking about conversion, which it is not.
 
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