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Pro-Life vs Pro-Choice : same ideologies-different groups

SGO

Well-Known Member
No. You wrote "the unvaxed are lice: has a president" and followed it by Nazi propaganda.

We're you just expressing an opinion that the government would use propaganda to try and convince people to be vaccinated you would not have gone all nazi on us. I actually would have agreed with your opinion.

But you chose the path of Nazi propaganda (which was, to be clear, more telling about you than those who are grateful for the lives spared by the vaccine).


Yes Jon, what I wrote here adequately reflects the intent that original post in the other thread.
 

canadyjd

Well-Known Member
You said "When others “opinions” slander Christian men and women, I’ll call them out."

Apparently that is a false claim.

@SGO slandered millions of our brethern by saying they were like nazis. You were silent.

Looks like you should have said 'I call out people only when they oppose my side of an issue". That would have been more true of a claim.
I am done with this

Thanks for the conversation

peace to you
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
I saw some today that show the vaccines cause increase in MU transmission.
Just say less effective.
You see a disturbing pattern? Failed vaccine?
Not a failed vaccine. Tge flu vaccine is the same.

The covid was very effective against civid-19, tge delta varient, and studies show it is still effective against MU (but less so).

I figure sooner or later they will have to adapt vaccines to address varients (like with the flu shot....everybody would have to be effectively vaccinated to stop varients (world wide) and that will never happen.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Yes Jon, what I wrote here adequately reflects the intent that original post in the other thread.
OK. Why could you not say so on that thread?

A simple "oops, I shouldn't have gone all nazi on you guys" would have gone a long way
 

Reynolds

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Not a failed vaccine. Tge flu vaccine is the same.

The covid was very effective against civid-19, tge delta varient, and studies show it is still effective against MU (but less so).

I figure sooner or later they will have to adapt vaccines to address varients (like with the flu shot....everybody would have to be effectively vaccinated to stop varients (world wide) and that will never happen.
The world can be 100% vaccinated and it will make no difference. The virus has an animal reservoir. It will mutate there and come back.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
The world can be 100% vaccinated and it will make no difference. The virus has an animal reservoir. It will mutate there and come back.
That is assuming a few things. First, studies indicate the chances of covid (regular 'ole covid) bring transmitted from animal to human is very low. Then we have to consider varients being passed to animals (there is no indication they can). If they can we have to consider mutations of the virus in an animal. The odds are extremely low.

It would not work because of human fear (too many would not get vaccinated), logistics (if everybody wanted a vaccine it would take too long to get everybody vaccinated), and multiple varients (the three we have now are from unvaccinated areas....India, Africa, and Columbia) but these three can mutate independently....causing more varients until the vaccine is ineffective giving us more "varient factories" than the unvaccinated.
 

unprofitable

Active Member
I have no idea how many abortions are performed to protect the mother's life versus abortions done because a child simply is not wanted. Regardless, the intent and result of any abortion is to end a life. Blood is upon someone's hands.

I do not know of anyone not having the vaccine with the intent of taking another ones life. True, they may innocently contribute to another death but that was never their intention.

Two entirely different ideaologies.
 
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JonC

Moderator
Moderator
I have no idea how many abortions are performed to protect the mother's life versus abortions done because a child simply is not wanted. Regardless, the intent and result of any abortion is to end a life. Blood is upon someone's hands.

I do not know of anyone not having the vaccine with the intent of taking another ones life. True, they may innocently contribute to another death but that was never their intention.

Two entirely different ideaologies.
I do not mean abortions to protect the mothers life. I mean their view that legalized abortions prevent the loss of the mother due to illegal abortions.

There is a reason pro-vhoice protesters often carry signs with coat hangers.

It is the exact sane ideology- just sacrificing a different group of people to protect their rights.

None of the pro-choice groups (anti-covid-vacvine or anri-abortion laws) believe they are protecting their rights to choose over the lives of others. They are blinded by their desire to protect their rights that they do not care about those who may die of the consequences.
 

just-want-peace

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------- None of the pro-choice groups (anti-covid-vacvine or anri-abortion laws) believe they are protecting their rights to choose over the lives of others. They are blinded by their desire to protect their rights that they do not care about those who may die of the consequences.

Well, don't know which group you would assign to me, but your (highlighted) statement is total garbage AFAIC!!!!!!
The only reason I'm concerned about "your" so-called RIGHTS, is that they are being attacked one-by-one by the current administration by his threats to -----!!!
My gut feeling re: those "who may die" can make their own choice as to the vax and live with the "consequences of their choice" as each one of us must do eventually.
Your blaming others for the consequences of another's choice puts you right in tune with the left!!!!!!! (Not a compliment, if any question:D)

IOW, covid is the weapon of choice of the current "power structure" at the moment, & they are utilizing it full bore in the present. It also helps to move the needle from pointing to "AFGANISTAN"!! (NEVER FORGET!!)

One more thing - it certainly does not embellish any respect due a moderator by your constant belittling of those with whom you disagree; IE: Snowflake, Cupcake etc. As a moderator I would assume you would be a bit more civil in many of your responses, as it seems, SEEMS, that you are using your position as a power play.

I have had posts deleted/corrected for less that some of the stuff I've seen you post, & NO, I'm not going to go back and try to dig up examples, as the above mentioned are sufficient to make my point. YES!!! You are allowed to post your opinion, but, you as a moderator, are held to a higher standard than the average poster - or should be anyway. If you feel that you are stifled by your position, you should resign and join the ranks of the masses!!
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Well, don't know which group you would assign to me, but your (highlighted) statement is total garbage AFAIC!!!!!!
The only reason I'm concerned about "your" so-called RIGHTS, is that they are being attacked one-by-one by the current administration by his threats to -----!!!
My gut feeling re: those "who may die" can make their own choice as to the vax and live with the "consequences of their choice" as each one of us must do eventually.
Your blaming others for the consequences of another's choice puts you right in tune with the left!!!!!!! (Not a compliment, if any question:D)

IOW, covid is the weapon of choice of the current "power structure" at the moment, & they are utilizing it full bore in the present. It also helps to move the needle from pointing to "AFGANISTAN"!! (NEVER FORGET!!)

One more thing - it certainly does not embellish any respect due a moderator by your constant belittling of those with whom you disagree; IE: Snowflake, Cupcake etc. As a moderator I would assume you would be a bit more civil in many of your responses, as it seems, SEEMS, that you are using your position as a power play.

I have had posts deleted/corrected for less that some of the stuff I've seen you post, & NO, I'm not going to go back and try to dig up examples, as the above mentioned are sufficient to make my point. YES!!! You are allowed to post your opinion, but, you as a moderator, are held to a higher standard than the average poster - or should be anyway. If you feel that you are stifled by your position, you should resign and join the ranks of the masses!!
Don't worry about my rights. I am a Christian. The rights I have are to be laid down for others - not to be taken up.

Insofar as blaming people's choices for the lives of others, I am not passing blame. Women who have abortions are blinded to their actions. They believe they are protecting and exercising their rights. Their lack of concern for the child is due to believing lies - granted, lies they want to believe....but misinformation all the same.

Don't worry about the nicknames I may use, precious. They are terms of endearment.

And, oddly enough, I do not feel stiffled at all. ;)
 

Reynolds

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Not a failed vaccine. Tge flu vaccine is the same.

The covid was very effective against civid-19, tge delta varient, and studies show it is still effective against MU (but less so).

I figure sooner or later they will have to adapt vaccines to address varients (like with the flu shot....everybody would have to be effectively vaccinated to stop varients (world wide) and that will never happen.
It's failed as a viable vaccine for Mu. By the numbers Pfizer has already failed against Delta. They will all fail against MU. It's time to update the vaxes.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
It's failed as a viable vaccine for Mu. By the numbers Pfizer has already failed against Delta. They will all fail against MU. It's time to update the vaxes.
I wouldn't say "failed". The study showed Pfizer is 80% effective and Moderna is 95% effective against the Delta varient. Studies indicate the MU will not be the dominant varient (and that it may be less contageous than the delta varient) which is good. They also indicate all three are effective against the MU varient.

Remember, the MU varient was detected January 2021.

Vaccine Effective Against Delta Variant Of Coronavirus: US Study
 
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