Originally posted by LadyEagle:
Lack of understanding of physical illness and medicine without the benefit of technology developed in the last 50 years drove people to burn some people at the stake, too.
No one here is condoning such absurd behavior or suggesting that anyone be burned at the stake. The Bible never commanded such a thing and to do so was sinful.
Originally posted by LadyEagle:
Named for St. Anthony, the patron saint of those infected with the disease, "St. Anthony's Fire" was sometimes linked with epidemics of "dancing mania" which occurred between the thirteenth and sixteenth centuries, and may explain the psychosis and convulsions attributed to the women accused of witchcraft in the Salem trials of 1692.
Yes, ingesting toxic chemicals will do terrible things to your body. There are chemicals that can effect our behavior. Alcohol is one of them, and we can see from the Scripture's admonition to refrain from becoming intoxicated, that is an undesired effect. Of course Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft and other drugs also effect your behavior. Would God really condone one drug over another?
Originally posted by LadyEagle:
Another not mentioned in the Bible:
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Tourette Syndrome is a neurological disorder that manifests itself in the form of body and/or facial tics, and sometimes verbal tics, in the thousands of children and young adults who live with this disorder. This neurological disorder is hereditary.
Throughout history this disorder of the neurological system has been misunderstood. In the past many Tourette Syndrome sufferers, particularly those with severe tics, were often thought possessed. They were often isolated from the public, and many underwent extreme and harsh treatment (burned at the stake, flogging, lobotomies, etc. ) by the public, authorities and/or medical community. Many people with Tourette's were often committed to insane asylums.
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I take it you are assuming that Tourette Syndrome is a provable physical disorder. I actually thought the same thing until I did a bit of research. It appears that the medical community has lied to us again.
<a href="http://www.tsa-usa.org/" target="_blank">
Tourette Syndrome Association</a>
David Pauls, Ph.D., a Yale Child Study Center population
geneticist, said that the Consortium's study discovered "two small pieces of the genome that may be strongly implicated with TS and four additional regions that may contribute" to Tourette Syndrome.
"This is the best information that we've ever had in terms of the actual location of a gene of genes for TS," Dr. Pauls said. "It is a major step forward."
A step forward, but still they have
nothing to prove thier theory! They have
not proven that TS is a physical disorder. There is
NO "physical" way of testing to see if a person has TS.
http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/tourette_primer3.htm
Currently, there is no brain test or laboratory test to determine if someone has Tourette's. The diagnosis is a clinical one, which means that it's based on the professional taking a careful history, observing the patient, and arranging for any tests that might be necessary to rule out other conditions that could look like Tourette's or that could cause tics.
In fact, TS is still treated as a "mental" disorder. You will find it listed in the
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders IV. If it is a "physical" disorder beyond our control, why is it being treated as a "Mental" one?
Who "discovered" Tourette Syndrome anyway?
<a href="http://www.tsa-usa.org/" target="_blank">
Tourette Syndrome Association Georges Gilles de la Tourette </a>
Georges Gilles de la Tourette (born Georges Albert Edouard Brutus Gilles de la Tourette!) in 1857, made several valuable contributions to medicine and literature. His greatest achievements were in the study of hysteria and hypnotism; a competent neuropsychiatrist, he was particularly interested in therapy. With a colleague, he wrote a highly perceptive analysis of Sister Jeanne des Anges' account of her "hysterical illness" which was caused by her unrequited love for a priest.
Someone accused me of thinking that I am "smarter" than the researchers. Well, I am not suggesting that I am "smarter" than anyone. The facts have been presented.
The Bible tells us not to sin and TS is supposed to cause a person to curse uncontrollably.
Georges Gilles de la Tourette, a man who spent his life studying "hypnotism" says that it is, and everyone chooses to believe him. Among all of the writings and research that has been done since He discovered TS there is still
NO evidence to prove anything they say.
I choose to continue to believe that God would not allow a person who was controlled by the Spirit of God to break the commandments of that Spirit. I do not believe that
any ailment has more power than God's Spirit. When the Bible says that the fruit of the Spirit is joy and peace, then that is what I expect a person who is "walking" in the Spirit to have. Otherwise, the Holy Spirit is not as powerful as our bodies.
One last thought:
Does anyone know what neuroscientists study?
http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/what.html
What do neuroscientists study
1. Behavioral Level: study of the neural basis of behavior. In other words, what causes people and animals to do the things they do.
People, psychology and science
believe that behavior is caused by the neurons in our brains! If this is true the entire Bible is a lie! Wake up, this is not Scriptural! If you believe the Bible you should oppose anything that tries to discredit it. The Bible says we are responsible for our behavior! Is this true, or is God sending people to hell for making them with nuerons that
make them engange in sinful behavior? In other words, they can't help it! My God did no such thing! We have been warned about such things in the Bible.
Col 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ.
(NIV)
~Lorelei
