Question about a Catholic litany V2...

[Thinkingstuff]

If you were ushered into the presence of God, and God were to ask you: "Why should I allow you into my Heaven, what would you answer?

One who has trusted Christ as Savior can honestly answer, "not because of any merit I have done, but because I was clothed in the righteousness of Jesus Christ which was given to me the day I trusted Christ."

1 John 2:1-2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Propitiation is a legal term meaning satisfaction. He paid the penalty and satisfied the legal demands of God that the penalty for my sins in full payment has been made. I pay nothing. Jesus paid it all. Salvation is therefore a free gift. I simply must accept it by faith.

I have to take a test when I die and get the right answer!!!! Woah! I thought I was done with those things. Does that mean I have to bring a number 2 pensil with me or will it be supplied. And how much time to I have to finish the test in?

 

[ReformedBaptist]

I have to take a test when I die and get the right answer!!!! Woah! I thought I was done with those things. Does that mean I have to bring a number 2 pensil with me or will it be supplied. And how much time to I have to finish the test in?

You will have 5 seconds. Bring your own pencil.

 

[Thinkingstuff]

You will have 5 seconds. Bring your own pencil.

Wow. Is it open book?

 

[Agnus_Dei]

Wow. Is it open book?

YES! sola Scriptura...you only get one shot at the interpretation...so make it a good one...:laugh:

in XC
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[DHK]

I have to take a test when I die and get the right answer!!!! Woah! I thought I was done with those things. Does that mean I have to bring a number 2 pensil with me or will it be supplied. And how much time to I have to finish the test in?

If you were ushered into the presence of God, and God were to ask you: "Why should I allow you into my Heaven, what would you answer?

"IF" means it is hypothetical.

 

[Matt Black]

If you were ushered into the presence of God, and God were to ask you: "Why should I allow you into my Heaven, what would you answer?

I'd point to Jesus and say " Because of Him, His death and resurrection". But that doesn't make me perfect automatically.

One who has trusted Christ as Savior can honestly answer, "not because of any merit I have done, but because I was clothed in the righteousness of Jesus Christ which was given to me the day I trusted Christ."

1 John 2:1-2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Propitiation is a legal term meaning satisfaction. He paid the penalty and satisfied the legal demands of God that the penalty for my sins in full payment has been made. I pay nothing. Jesus paid it all. Salvation is therefore a free gift. I simply must accept it by faith.

Yes, I know and believe all of that. But none of it answers my question.

 

[Thinkingstuff]

If you were ushered into the presence of God, and God were to ask you: "Why should I allow you into my Heaven, what would you answer?

"IF" means it is hypothetical.

I was teasing. I know that's not what you meant. I know you were making the point that salvation is based on Christ accomplished work rather than anything we do. Note you're definition of Salvation does not go beyond justification. For these others it does. Salvation for them includes sanctification. You're saying its not its a legal declaration that is enough to usher us into heaven. I understand. But I was teasing.

 

[DHK]

I'd point to Jesus and say " Because of Him, His death and resurrection". But that doesn't make me perfect automatically.

Yes, I know and believe all of that. But none of it answers my question.

The what is your question. If at salvation, I am justified--just as if I never sinned--I will be ushered into the presence of God at death no questions asked.
Sanctification is a life-long process that never ends. It is foolish to think that any man will ever be "good enough" or "sanctified enough" to get to heaven. God picks the time of our death. It says in Revelation:

Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

You will meet death on his terms. As long as you are in the midst of His will you cannot die until the Lord allows it to be so; until He takes you home.
Outside of God's will one may die before his expected time.
Sanctification ends when you end (physically.)

 

[Matt Black]

But if I am not perfect, as you say, (although declared perfect), then how can I touch, behold, be with, the Perfect?

 

[DHK]

But if I am not perfect, as you say, (although declared perfect), then how can I touch, behold, be with, the Perfect?

Paul said that he was the chiefest of sinners but was not concerned about the problem you are stating.
"There is therefore now no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus."
I was "put" in Christ Jesus the day I was saved.
I was declared righteous or holy on that day; and that is all I need to be concerned with.