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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Van, Sep 19, 2020.

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  1. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
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    Are you refusing to accept the obvious, those with faith as credited by God are "elect?"
    Gal 2:3
    But not even Titus, who was with me, though he was a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised.
     
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    On what basis does God love all mankind?
     
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    So...belief or unbelief is the hinge to opening or closing the door to heaven.
    Who opens or closes that door, Van?
     
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    While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
     
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    Asked and answered dozens of times. God and God alone puts individuals into Christ.
     
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    A perfect example of limited atonement. Thank you for sharing scripture.
    "We" and "us" are limiting words that do not support universal humanity.
    Brilliant. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    So, belief is not required? Just God choosing whom He wills?
     
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    For the Sheep, and not the goats!
     
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    Based upon His will, and not our own!
     
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    Van holds to God saving based upon his foreknowledge of us willing to accept Jesus as Lord!
     
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    The Supremacy of Man in convincing God to save us by our faith.
     
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    God desires to save us, but he has agreed to limit Himself to accommodate out free will?
     
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    Note the COMPLETE absence of even any attempt to demonstrate that it is an idiom, just empty rhetoric.
     
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    Six hour notice
    This thread will be closed no sooner than 10 pm EDT / 7 pm PDT
     
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    Over and over and over ...

     
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    [Matthew 23:13 NASB] 13 "But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven from people; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.
    • This verse does not say that "those who are entering" were not seeking God.
    • Calvinism does claim that this verse teaches that.
    • YOU are the only one saying that someone "can be 'entering the kingdom' and not be seeking God." and attributing that to Calvinists.
    • You are not being very honest in this discussion.

    [John 3:19-20 NASB] 19 "This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. 20 "For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
    • You are rather flippantly rejecting the words of the Gospel of John.
    • Are you as quick to reject John 3:16 as you are to reject John 3:19-20?
    • It is not MY words that you are mocking, or any Calvinist doctrine, it is Scripture itself.
    I leave you to your folly.
     
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    Why don't you answer my questions. You make many allegations, but when asked to support or prove them you fold like a table napkin.

    You have addressed nothing. As soon as you run into resistance you wilt. You resort to one liners that somehow satisfies you that you have answered the questions, but in reality, you have answered nothing.

    Quantrill
     
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    Perhaps you should believe the Bible instead of twisting Scripture to support you PC views.

    Quantrill
     
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    To claim the we and us does not refer to sinners is to display confirmation bias.
     
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    Yet another absurdity, the question was who opens the door. And the answer is God and God alone.

    All these Calvinist's posts are obfuscation, personal incredulity, and deflection from the obvious.
     
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