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Featured Question For My Reformed Brothers And Sistes, Will God Take Care Of Us?

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Calv1, May 14, 2017.

  1. Yeshua1

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    God told Adam that when he chose to sin, that he would die, and he experience spiritual death that very time of the Fall, so Adam and Eve both tasted both physical death and spiritual death!
     
  2. Yeshua1

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    Do you agree with he doctrine expressed during the Council of Trent?
    As the RCC denies the real Gospel at that time officially!
     
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  3. Yeshua1

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    Mankind is no longer able to hear and receive the truth of God, apart from the Person and work of the Holy Spirit, as he enables the Elect in Christ to receive those truths!
     
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    Depends if its what Trent says vs what you say Trent says. Often what people say Trent says is not what Trent says at all.

    If you don't agree with one hit me with it.
     
  5. Yeshua1

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    That if we state that we are saved by grace alone faithj alone, that is wrong and heresy! As per trent
    If we deny papacy, if we deny the body and blood of mass, if we disbeleive infant baptismal regeneration et all!
     
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    You depend on making false accusations and straw mans.

    If we are so evil why don't you hand your evil tools to me and quit the lies and accusations? Are you so dependent on the spirit of the devil?

    The Gospel is always Jesus Christ.



    I can go through a list of things you believe and have you AGREE that is what you believe with no deception.


    But you could never do that with me always filling it with lies. Cowards do that, do not be a coward.
     
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    The Church of Rome holds with papacy/infant regeneration, being the one true church, teaching a mix of Grace/works
    NONE of them are of God!
     
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    Back to the o/p (although I can't say I'm Reformed):
    Will God Take Care Of Us?

    Yes.

    I can identify with calv1 (Mike) suffering having come to my sunset years I can say yes in spite of the anguish of my own "fiery trial".

    1 Peter 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
    13 but rejoice to the extent that you partake of Christ's sufferings, that when His glory is revealed, you may also be glad with exceeding joy.

    Couple of things helped me in my anguish.

    Rhetorical question:
    Did my suffering compare to the sufferings of Christ and others He chose to "partake" of His sufferings?

    Then the scripture that helped (KJV because I memorized it that way in my youth):

    Proverbs 3
    5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
    6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
    7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.
    8 It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones.

    This was the balm of Gilead to me.

    For MANY years Psalm 88 was my testimony.

    Praying for you calv1.

    HankD
     
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    Just read the Council of Trent !
     
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    First you better quote trent the line:

    Also I don't know what you mean by "faithj alone" Maybe you mean "faith alone" .

    In fact I don't know what you mean by ALONE.

    If you got Grace ALONE + FAITH ALONE = GRACE + FAITH NOT ALONE.


    If YOU are alone and I am alone......and we stand next to each other.....how are you still alone?

    Who ever brought these "alones" theology was either drunk or stupid, or both drunk and stupid. Doesn't know how to read, definitely doesn't know math.


    Now if you read the above and think this is a disagreement with you.......You need to have someone else read this FOR YOU, cause you don't know how to read.
     
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    Is John Calvin lead by the holy spirit?
     
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    Jesus and the Apostles taught that we are saved by Grace alone thru faith alone!
     
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    He was not an inspired Apostle, nor not all thing he taught agreed with scripture. but on the Gospel itself, he was right, RCC was and is dead wrong!
     
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