Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

[MrW]

The perfect tense in English describes actions that are completed in relation to the present, past, or future. It includes three forms: present perfect (e.g., "I have eaten"), past perfect (e.g., "I had eaten"), and future perfect (e.g., "I will have eaten").

 

[Ben1445]

This sounds like you deny the immutability of God. Please give an undeniable case example of your claim.

This sounds like you think God is not allowed to paraphrase His own words.
You sound like you don’t think God is allowed to say the same thing two different ways.

 

[Ben1445]

got an example?

No, I don’t have an example of my teacher teaching it because what technology was available then was not allowed to be brought into the classroom by the students. I don’t have a video of my teacher teaching perfect tenses.

thats not really perfect tense is it?

It is.

again, example.

In the link.
You are welcome to read all the examples that the English language affords you. Just look it up.

I have been saved.

in the english by itself. I could say I was saved.. but it has no bearing on my future. or really the present if we really get down to it. Thats why people see the words have been saved, and still believe this salvation can be lost. because they were saved (past tense) but they were not perfectly saved (perfect tense.)

That is the problem of people not knowing their own language. It doesn’t mean that the perfect tense doesn’t exist.
If I say “I had eaten,” it means in the past I ate but it leaves opportunity for me to be hungry.
“Are you hungry?” “I had eaten, but I am hungry again.”

If I answer “I have eaten,” I would not expect to be fed. The present perfect tense shows that what was done in the past is relative to the present.
“I will have eaten,” shows the future perfect.
These convey clearly different meanings than the statements made without the perfect tense.
I ate.
I eat.
I will eat.

English has a basic perfect tense. But in reality it is really a past tense. I went to the store could be seen as perfect. because it was a past action, and it was completed.

I have gone to the store means that the task is presently completed.
If you want to use some kind of millennial, gen z understanding of English, you don’t even have a respectable dictionary.
There is proper classroom English which must be understood and used.
Your ignorance and unwillingness to use proper classroom grammar in the English language doesn’t make the perfect tense disappear. It means you don’t have a good understanding of your own language.

its not the same however. as the greek.. Again, I have given my example multiple times now.

And you know Greek so well that you know it better than English? Greek must be your first language?

 

[Salty]

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