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GoodTidings

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I have to laugh at you. I provided a real example of what's happened in America and you call it unsophisticated. You simply don't ot can't understand the real problem.
No, you offered up an anecdote and then blamed all of America's problems on the Republicans. That is both unsophisticated and immature. And it demonstrates an inability to engage in a serious, adult dialogue. It's a waste of time to even try to reason with you.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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We are reaping the effects of a political establishment on both sides that do what benefits them and their domestic and foreign financial interests.

It's far more complex than your overly unsophisticated and simplistic approach to the problem.
Oh come on now, you gotta guy who is famous for shooting from the hip leading the charge and then your saying it’s extremely complex and sophisticated problem ?!? I just pulled my wife from the jaws of a cancerous death at a very expensive rate that will keep me working till I drop dead so should I get her outa bed and tell her to work? I just helped my niece graduate and now she wants to continue on to be a surgeon... how do we pay for that? So here is what we need Trump, jobs, jobs and more jobs... like the ones you brag about. And guess what, Biden yuk— I hate to say it is talking about it! Granted talk is cheap (evidenced by Obama) but he Biden is starting to get people paying attention.

So maybe Trump can get the illegals with the forged drivers licenses and Social Security cards to vote him in but I don’t think so, or maybe the blacks will vote for him but don’t hold your breath.... if they have jobs they mostly are marginal. But ole gramps Biden, right now he is feeling our pain. He will have a beer wit u. What does the “stable genius” have to offer.... a magna hat!
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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$831.00 more per family. That is the present increased cost every American family gets to pay for the tariffs... :Thumbsup

Knocking the ball outa the park:Inlove
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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No, you offered up an anecdote and then blamed all of America's problems on the Republicans. That is both unsophisticated and immature. And it demonstrates an inability to engage in a serious, adult dialogue. It's a waste of time to even try to reason with you.
I remember old man Bush and Bill Clinton doing a commercial pitch that was nationally televised on the NAFTA program ... how it would help all countries in this continent and of course the USA would benefit greatly. My boss bought the crap and moved his manufacturing arm to Mexico. When you toured the plants the people lived in huts ( some even made homes outa spare tires). You also had to educate them on the lines.... totally ignorant.

My point is that it was the joint efforts of our government that sold us out and took our factory’s away... so why trust either party?
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Oh come on now, you gotta guy who is famous for shooting from the hip leading the charge and then your saying it’s extremely complex and sophisticated problem ?!? I just pulled my wife from the jaws of a cancerous death at a very expensive rate that will keep me working till I drop dead so should I get her outa bed and tell her to work? I just helped my niece graduate and now she wants to continue on to be a surgeon... how do we pay for that? So here is what we need Trump, jobs, jobs and more jobs... like the ones you brag about. And guess what, Biden yuk— I hate to say it is talking about it! Granted talk is cheap (evidenced by Obama) but he Biden is starting to get people paying attention.

So maybe Trump can get the illegals with the forged drivers licenses and Social Security cards to vote him in but I don’t think so, or maybe the blacks will vote for him but don’t hold your breath.... if they have jobs they mostly are marginal. But ole gramps Biden, right now he is feeling our pain. He will have a beer wit u. What does the “stable genius” have to offer.... a magna hat!
Just what do you think you hear Biden saying that sounds so sound? Remember, Creepy Joe was VP when Obama lied about having “shovel ready” jobs. So much for calling a spade a spade.

There is no reason I know to think Biden would not leave me high and dry to pay the tab for his beer. Only when he gives up all of his trappings to live like the rest of us, would I ever believe he is in any way "feeling our pain." I've already seen what he's feeling, and it isn't our pain.
 

GoodTidings

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I remember old man Bush and Bill Clinton doing a commercial pitch that was nationally televised on the NAFTA program ... how it would help all countries in this continent and of course the USA would benefit greatly. My boss bought the crap and moved his manufacturing arm to Mexico. When you toured the plants the people lived in huts ( some even made homes outa spare tires). You also had to educate them on the lines.... totally ignorant.

My point is that it was the joint efforts of our government that sold us out and took our factory’s away... so why trust either party?
Yet, you appear to trust Biden....
 

GoodTidings

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Oh come on now, you gotta guy who is famous for shooting from the hip leading the charge and then your saying it’s extremely complex and sophisticated problem ?!?
Yes because the problem didn't start with Trump. It started decades ago with the establishment and it ongoing mishandling of the economy, and then there is inflation and the tax system that Trump is addressing.

I just pulled my wife from the jaws of a cancerous death at a very expensive rate that will keep me working till I drop dead so should I get her outa bed and tell her to work? I just helped my niece graduate and now she wants to continue on to be a surgeon... how do we pay for that? So here is what we need Trump, jobs, jobs and more jobs... like the ones you brag about. And guess what, Biden yuk— I hate to say it is talking about it! Granted talk is cheap (evidenced by Obama) but he Biden is starting to get people paying attention.
None of that is Trump's fault, though. Trump's job is not produce jobs. His job is to create an environment that encourages job growth and encourages companies to come and/or stay in the US. If you need jobs, you need to call on the private sector to create them. Jobs are created by the private sector, not the president.

So maybe Trump can get the illegals with the forged drivers licenses and Social Security cards to vote him in but I don’t think so, or maybe the blacks will vote for him but don’t hold your breath....
No, that would be illegal, but that is what the Dems want. They want an unbeatable majority that they can use to remain in power indefinitely, because the Dems only want power. They don't care about actually governing. If you listen to them on the campaign trail, it is all about what they want to take away from us, and pretty much nothing about policy that actually works.

if they have jobs they mostly are marginal. But ole gramps Biden, right now he is feeling our pain. He will have a beer wit u. What does the “stable genius” have to offer.... a magna hat!
Biden is nothing. He is plagiarist, and he was batting 0 when he ran in 2008. That tells us a lot about his character. Biden is running on name recognition and Obama's coat tails. He hasn't been in a debate yet, and that is where his numbers will drop. Trump has positive record for economic growth, lower unemployment, lower taxes, a stronger military and many other things. Trump is the anti-Obama and Trump is rolling back the policies of that failed administration and bringing back prosperity and standing up to our fake allies and our opponents.

The Dems have no one that can beat Trump because they are all too far left, too busy trying give away the farm, and they have some kookiest ideas ever put forth by political candidates. They don't have the class of Kennedy. JFK would roll over in his grave if he could see the kind of party the Dems have devolved into.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Just what do you think you hear Biden saying that sounds so sound? Remember, Creepy Joe was VP when Obama lied about having “shovel ready” jobs. So much for calling a spade a spade.

There is no reason I know to think Biden would not leave me high and dry to pay the tab for his beer. Only when he gives up all of his trappings to live like the rest of us, would I ever believe he is in any way "feeling our pain." I've already seen what he's feeling, and it isn't our pain.
You are not listening... he is going to run on it (weather he does it or not is immaterial). People need jobs so make it happen. I’m interested in hearing what he has to say.
 

GoodTidings

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You are not listening... he is going to run on it (weather he does it or not is immaterial). People need jobs so make it happen. I’m interested in hearing what he has to say.
It's not the president's job to create jobs. It's the private sector's job to create jobs. Biden won't create jobs; his policies will hamper the ability of the private sector to not only create jobs, but they will end up losing the jobs they created under Trump.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Yes because the problem didn't start with Trump. It started decades ago with the establishment and it ongoing mishandling of the economy, and then there is inflation and the tax system that Trump is addressing.


None of that is Trump's fault, though. Trump's job is not produce jobs. His job is to create an environment that encourages job growth and encourages companies to come and/or stay in the US. If you need jobs, you need to call on the private sector to create them. Jobs are created by the private sector, not the president.

No, that would be illegal, but that is what the Dems want. They want an unbeatable majority that they can use to remain in power indefinitely, because the Dems only want power. They don't care about actually governing. If you listen to them on the campaign trail, it is all about what they want to take away from us, and pretty much nothing about policy that actually works.


Biden is nothing. He is plagiarist, and he was batting 0 when he ran in 2008. That tells us a lot about his character. Biden is running on name recognition and Obama's coat tails. He hasn't been in a debate yet, and that is where his numbers will drop. Trump has positive record for economic growth, lower unemployment, lower taxes, a stronger military and many other things. Trump is the anti-Obama and Trump is rolling back the policies of that failed administration and bringing back prosperity and standing up to our fake allies and our opponents.

The Dems have no one that can beat Trump because they are all too far left, too busy trying give away the farm, and they have some kookiest ideas ever put forth by political candidates. They don't have the class of Kennedy. JFK would roll over in his grave if he could see the kind of party the Dems have devolved into.
JFK is dead and gone.... being sentimental doesn’t help the situation, but jobs will, getting rid of these parasite illegals will. Paying some attention to disenfranchised individuals will, not shooting your mouth off like a bully will... that’s performance.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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It's not the president's job to create jobs. It's the private sector's job to create jobs. Biden won't create jobs; his policies will hamper the ability of the private sector to not only create jobs, but they will end up losing the jobs they created under Trump.
Your opinion
 

FollowTheWay

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No, you offered up an anecdote and then blamed all of America's problems on the Republicans. That is both unsophisticated and immature. And it demonstrates an inability to engage in a serious, adult dialogue. It's a waste of time to even try to reason with you.
I've shown in the past on here how "Trickle Down Economics" has never worked and how Republican tax changes have favored the rich and increased inequality thereby contributing to the downfall of the middle class. Their anti-union views have also supported this downfall.
 

GoodTidings

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I've shown in the past on here how "Trickle Down Economics" has never worked and how Republican tax changes have favored the rich and increased inequality thereby contributing to the downfall of the middle class. Their anti-union views have also supported this downfall.
A rising tide lifts all ships. You don't create jobs by penalizing the rich who create the jobs. Trickle down economics does work and is working right now. The problem is that the Left demonized the wealthy who create the jobs and over-regulates business to the point that business owners cannot create new jobs or open up new stores, as we saw in the Obama era. Trump is rolling back many of those regulations that choked out jobs and is helping people get back to work by providing an environment that is favorable to job growth.

And Trump is proving that if you unleash the private sector, you will have more jobs and less unemployment and that means MORE taxes without having to raise taxes. The Obama era approach was to regulate people out of business, put cause more people to become dependent on gov't assistance and then tax the stuffing out of the people who still have jobs. Obama's legacy is falling apart piece by piece and hopefully one day it will be like he was never president.

The middle class suffered far more under Obama's anti-America, pro-socialist/communistic/fascist policies than under any other president.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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When I was growing up in the 50's and 60's a man with a high school education and a good union job on the assembly line could support a family of four in a more than adequate way. We had families like that living on both sides of us. One was a family of four whose husband worked at Int. Harvester. The other was a family of seven whose husband was an electrician. Today, that's impossible in America. Wives have had to go to work to make ends meet. We're reaping the "benefits" of Republican createde inequality.
You’re appealing to the pre-Civil Rights era?! Now that is classic role reversal, but very telling. Just how many other Dems want to go back to that era?
 

GoodTidings

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Your opinion
No, that's not simply my opinion.

Biden can't create jobs. No president can create jobs. If Biden decides to replicate the Obama years (since he isn't intelligent enough to come up with his own ideas/plan) it will amount to job killing regulations and socialist, anti-America policies. One would have to have a deep-seated hatred of America in order to support someone like Biden and support a return to the socialist/anti-America/anti-Christian Obama years..
 

FollowTheWay

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A rising tide lifts all ships. You don't create jobs by penalizing the rich who create the jobs. Trickle down economics does work and is working right now. The problem is that the Left demonized the wealthy who create the jobs and over-regulates business to the point that business owners cannot create new jobs or open up new stores, as we saw in the Obama era. Trump is rolling back many of those regulations that choked out jobs and is helping people get back to work by providing an environment that is favorable to job growth.

And Trump is proving that if you unleash the private sector, you will have more jobs and less unemployment and that means MORE taxes without having to raise taxes. The Obama era approach was to regulate people out of business, put cause more people to become dependent on gov't assistance and then tax the stuffing out of the people who still have jobs. Obama's legacy is falling apart piece by piece and hopefully one day it will be like he was never president.

The middle class suffered far more under Obama's anti-America, pro-socialist/communistic/fascist policies than under any other president.
Voodoo Economics as George HW Bush called it. I have a good friend who is a retired member of the Atlanta Fed. I asked him if trickle down economics ever worked. His answer was: Are you kidding? Absolutely not.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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You are not listening... he is going to run on it (weather he does it or not is immaterial). People need jobs so make it happen. I’m interested in hearing what he has to say.
LOL! You tell me I’m not listening, then say absolutely nothing. Again, what is Biden saying that sounds so sound? How is he planning to fix any problems? What he does or doesn’t do is precisely the point. If not, then you should quit whining about Trump and all of the others.
 

GoodTidings

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JFK is dead and gone.... being sentimental doesn’t help the situation, but jobs will, getting rid of these parasite illegals will. Paying some attention to disenfranchised individuals will, not shooting your mouth off like a bully will... that’s performance.
Well then you need to turn your attention to Congress particularly the Democrats in the House that want illegals here, who refuse to reform immigration to keep illegals out, who prefer more Americans live on government assistance, who ignore disenfranchised and the Democrats whose own districts are poverty-stricken, with piles of human feces on their side walks. Democrat controlled cities like Seattle, Portland Or, San Francisco that look like third world countries with their tent cities...

I am not being sentimental. I am simply pointing out that men like JFK would have never let it get this bad in the Dem party. I am pointing out that the Dem party doesn't have any statesmen or men of principle like they used to have. It is because Socialism and Communism have found a way into our government under the cloak of "liberalism" that we have places in this country that the Dems control that are a total mess. And it is due to their policies, not Trump's policies.

The Dems don't care about their own districts. All they care about impeaching Trump. That's all they talk about and think about.

Trump isn't a bully. He is simply standing up to the bullies like Pelosi, Nadler, Schiff, Maxine Waters, and Schumer. And they are not used to be told where to get off.
 
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