Rate at Which People are Killed by Law Enforcement, by Race

[InTheLight]

The CDC makes information about the rate at which people are killed by law enforcement available in its WONDER database, which stands for Wide-ranging Online Data for Epidemiologic Research. For instance, according to the CDC, in Oklahoma the rate at which black people are killed per capita by law enforcement is greater than anywhere else in the country. That statistic is taken from data collected for the years 1999-2011. During that same time period, Oklahoma's rate for all people killed by law enforcement, including all races, is second only to New Mexico. However, Oklahoma, the District of Columbia, Nevada and Oregon are all tied for the rate at which people are killed. (The CDC treats the District of Columbia as a state when collecting and displaying statistics.)

In Missouri, where Mike Brown lived and died, black people are killed by law enforcement twice as frequently as white people. Nationwide, the rate at which black people are killed by law enforcement is 3 times higher than that of white people.

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/...r-risk-than-white-people-to-be-killed-police/

 

[matt wade]

Thanks...this data reinforces that blacks are more likely to engage in violent behavior, which results in severe consequences.

 

[righteousdude2]

That there chart ....

Thanks...this data reinforces that blacks are more likely to engage in violent behavior, which results in severe consequences.

Sure seems to support your premise! :thumbsup:u

 

[Zaac]

Thanks...this data reinforces that blacks are more likely to engage in violent behavior, which results in severe consequences.

The data reinforces that you would need to know what behavior everyone was engaging in to make that determination.

But again, we see your racial prejudice rearing its head.

 

[Zaac]

Sure seems to support your premise! :thumbsup:u

It sure seems to support the racial prejudice of both of ya to jump to such a conclusion.

All that data says is that more Blacks get killed than Whites. You have no way of implying that Blacks are more likely to engage in violent behavior from what was posted.

Yall got some serious problems with black people.

 

[righteousdude2]

Yall got some serious problems with black people.

And you? Well, you just got problems, period! :laugh:

 

[matt wade]

It sure seems to support the racial prejudice of both of ya to jump to such a conclusion.

All that data says is that more Blacks get killed than Whites. You have no way of implying that Blacks are more likely to engage in violent behavior from what was posted.

Yall got some serious problems with black people.

I never said the data implied that blacks where more likely to engage in violent behavior. I have other data (that I've shown you) that makes it a statement of fact. I simply said THIS data reinforces the other.

 

[carpro]

This might have some bearing on the subject:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43


Bear in mind that blacks comprise 14% of the population.

 

[carpro]

I never said the data implied that blacks where more likely to engage in violent behavior.

That particular data might not make that point.

But you can say it if you want to.

It's true. Statistics on violent crime bear it out.

 

[Zaac]

I never said the data implied that blacks where more likely to engage in violent behavior.

Thanks...this data reinforces that blacks are more likely to engage in violent behavior, which results in severe consequences.

It must have been my imagination. :laugh:

I have other data (that I've shown you) that makes it a statement of fact. I simply said THIS data reinforces the other.

We really need to go over some statistics basics on here. Blacks, in the general population, are no more likely to engage in violent behavior than are Whites.

50/50. Either they will or they won't. That's a fact.

The information that yall are mentioning from the DOJ and FBI looks at ACTUAL incidents. The only thing you can tell from those numbers is for ACTUAL incidents, the propensity of Blacks vs Whites vs Hispanics vs Asians to have COMMITTED a certain crime.

It DOES NOT tell you the propensity of a demographic for committing future crimes.

 

[InTheLight]

This might have some bearing on the subject:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43


Bear in mind that blacks comprise 14% of the population.

Your table shows rate of arrests by crime and by race. My table shows kills by law enforcement by race. If you're dead you don't get arrested. Or am I missing something?

 

[Zaac]

That particular data might not make that point.

But you can say it if you want to.

It's true. Statistics on violent crime bear it out.

Statistics on violent crime might bear that out for the group of people who COMMIT violent crimes.

It DOES NOT bear it out for the general population.

 

[righteousdude2]

I never said the data implied that blacks where more likely to engage in violent behavior.



It must have been my imagination. :laugh:




We really need to go over some statistics basics on here. Blacks, in the general population, are no more likely to engage in violent behavior than are Whites.

50/50. Either they will or they won't. That's a fact.

The information that yall are mentioning from the DOJ and FBI looks at ACTUAL incidents. The only thing you can tell from those numbers is for ACTUAL incidents, the propensity of Blacks vs Whites vs Hispanics vs Asians to have COMMITTED a certain crime.

It DOES NOT tell you the propensity of a demographic for committing future crimes.

Don't stop now ... you're on a roll, keep on 'splainin'

 

[Use of Time]

It's ironic that I'm seeing people who apparantly believe that black people are somehow genetically hardwired for violent behavior. Hmmm, I thought we didn't believe in that particular kind of science if you know what I mean.

 

[carpro]

Your table shows rate of arrests by crime and by race. My table shows kills by law enforcement by race. If you're dead you don't get arrested. Or am I missing something?

It puts the lie to this statement by Zaac.

Blacks, in the general population, are no more likely to engage in violent behavior than are Whites.

if you want to let him get away with his lies, I guess that's up to you.

 

[righteousdude2]

Don't believe it .....

It's ironic that I'm seeing people who apparantly believe that black people are somehow genetically hardwired for violent behavior. Hmmm, I thought we didn't believe in that particular kind of science if you know what I mean.

But to be honest the numbers ITL
posted are hard to argue with.

 

[carpro]

Statistics on violent crime might bear that out for the group of people who COMMIT violent crimes.

It DOES NOT bear it out for the general population.

Yes, it does.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Not all folk who are shot and killed were being violent.

The chart shows that if you are Black you are much more likely to be shot regardless of your actions.

 

[matt wade]

It's ironic that I'm seeing people who apparantly believe that black people are somehow genetically hardwired for violent behavior. Hmmm, I thought we didn't believe in that particular kind of science if you know what I mean.

Who said anything any genetically hardwired? It has nothing to do with genetics. They are trained by the culture.

 

[InTheLight]

It puts the lie to this statement by Zaac.

if you want to let him get away with his lies, I guess that's up to you.

I'm more interested in exploring why blacks are more likely to be shot dead by the police than any other race. That was my OP. Apparently your contention is that they are shot dead more often because they are more likely to commit violent crimes. Is that it?

But that doesn't fully answer my question. Maybe cops figure they'll just shoot this black guy and arrest this white guy? Is that a possibility?