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Rate POTUS Trump Mid-East visit ...

InTheLight

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The visuals of the glowing ball, the pushing, the snubbing, and the handshakes were not good.

It was a diplomatic trip. He didn't do very well in that regard.

I can't think of anything he did except competently read the teleprompter during his speech in Saudi Arabia. What exactly should he get credit for having accomplished?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Push/shove, doesn't matter. It was extremely impolite.

By the way, here is the definition of shove by Merriam-Webster:

Definition of shove
shoved


shoving



    • 1: to push along
    • 2: to push or put in a rough, careless, or hasty manner
Shove and push are synonyms.



A quick thrust of the elbow into Trumps Adams-apple should have taken care of that situation.
 

HankD

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+10 Across the board.

For sending the liberals into hair-on-fire hysterics.

:Laugh

HankD
 

Happy

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The visuals of the glowing ball, the pushing, the snubbing, and the handshakes were not good.

You get a snippet, a moment that someone happens to capture on a visual or audio.

Were you there? Did you see the cordial exchanges?

The American media all have an agenda. Every news outlet, (station, radio, paper, etc) has an owner, every owner has a political view, every employee agrees to work their assignment, and every completed assignment is edited, and then you (the public) are given what they (ie the owner), wants you to know, based on their own biased views, their opinions and their speculations....as if....it is fact!

It's not complicated.
Each news outlet will report, write, speak, show visuals, of what is favorable to their political view.
Each news outlet will report, write, speak, show visuals, of what they HOPE is unfavorable to their political opposition.

:)
 

Happy

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It was a diplomatic trip. He didn't do very well in that regard.

I can't think of anything he did except competently read the teleprompter during his speech in Saudi Arabia. What exactly should he get credit for having accomplished?

I think it was outstanding that Trump stood up as the Voice of the American People at large, who are sick and tired of getting saddled with the financial burden of NATO MEMBER COUNTRIES, WHO agreed to JOIN NATO and agreed to finance NATO operations..... BUT Don't!
 

Happy

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Alienating one of our strongest allies -100

German Chancellor Angela Merkel told supporters on Sunday that her country could no longer "completely depend" on the U.S. as a reliable partner. She said that Europeans "must really take our destiny into our own hands," Agence France Presse reported.

"The times in which we could completely depend on others are on the way out," she said at a campaign rally in Munich. "I've experienced that in the last few days."


Sent from my Motorola Droid Turbo.

LOL ~ Get real!

Merkel was speaking of ...."PARTNER".....why did you change the premise to "ALLY" ?

"German Chancellor Angela Merkel told supporters on Sunday that her country could no longer "completely depend" on the U.S. as a reliable partner. She said that Europeans "must really take our destiny into our own hands,"
Agence France Presse reported.

Precisely! There are NO MORE free rides for NATO members, who do not pay their pledges, but rather for sometime have DUMPED their financial obligations on the US, which MEANS Americans citizens are footing the bill!
So, YES....Germany needs to DEPEND on Germans to fulfill their PLEDGE as a member of NATO!

That has absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with Germany being an ALLY!



 

Crabtownboy

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Precisely! There are NO MORE free rides for NATO members, who do not pay their pledges, but rather for sometime have DUMPED their financial obligations on the US, which MEANS Americans citizens are footing the bill!
So, YES....Germany needs to DEPEND on Germans to fulfill their PLEDGE as a member of NATO!

So, their supporting the US in our misadventure wars mean nothing. Is the the death of their young soldiers a free ride?

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Note, this is back in 2009. There have been more since and this is only Iraq. It does not include allied soldiers deaths in other US lead misadventures.

How many US soldiers have died in misadventures by other NATO nations?
 

Use of Time

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+10 Across the board.

For sending the liberals into hair-on-fire hysterics.

:Laugh

HankD

I read an article awhile ago that pretty much stated that many conservatives have prioritized what you just said over any policy Trump has proposed. It's tragic what is happening to this country. It's so short sighted. That people have become more anti-liberal than conservative.
 

HankD

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I read an article awhile ago that pretty much stated that many conservatives have prioritized what you just said over any policy Trump has proposed. It's tragic what is happening to this country. It's so short sighted. That people have become more anti-liberal than conservative.
Actually I am far-sighted.

HankD
 

Happy

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So, their supporting the US in our misadventure wars mean nothing. Is the the death of their young soldiers a free ride?


When we are attacked. Yes. That is something they agree to AS a NATO member.

Point being ~ which you seemingly missed ~ is NATO members ALSO agree to HOW MUCH they will financially support the NATO organization itself.

Point being ~ which you seemingly missed ~ a great number of NATO members (including Germany) HAVE NOT MET THEIR PLEDGED FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS.

Point being ~ Financial support for the NATO organization does not disappear. The US has been picking up the slack for countries who are members of the NATO organization, WHO HAVE NOT MET THEIR PLEDGED FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS.

Point being ~ THOSE COSTS become the BURDEN of the American People!

Point being ~ THAT (financial obligation of NATO members) has NOTHING whatsoever to do with our standing as an ally of Germany!

How many US soldiers have died in misadventures by other NATO nations?

What does US soldiers have to do with NATO nations paying their pledged financial support of the NATO organization?

NOTHING!

Nice try to attempt to divert the point being discussed.....OF NATO members obligations of pledged finances, to soldier support.
 

Happy

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I do know that I can connect both to Trump

Point is YOU stated something that pertained to Trump, when in fact, you just made it up.
Why? Why make comments about a man that has no basis in truth?

THAT is the same premise for which Trump calls the "supposed news", FAKE NEWS.
 

Rippon

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Point is YOU stated something that pertained to Trump, when in fact, you just made it up.
Why? Why make comments about a man that has no basis in truth?

THAT is the same premise for which Trump calls the "supposed news", FAKE NEWS.
EW&F specializes in the absurd. Most of the time his posts make no sense whatsoever. Don't ask
him to be reasonable --it's not in his DNA.
 

Happy

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EW&F specializes in the absurd. Most of the time his posts make no sense whatsoever. Don't ask
him to be reasonable --it's not in his DNA.

I am in discovery of who blurts nonsense and who has something of value to say and pertinent to the point.
:)
 
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