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Earth Wind and Fire

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I am in discovery of who blurts nonsense and who has something of value to say and pertinent to the point.
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Value is something that is a judgement call to those who understand what value is vs mere opinion.With that said, I would advocate a policy of justice & In Rippons case nonintervention.....besides, I do not give opinion. Rippon on the other hand is an opinionated old prattling fishwife.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Point being ~ THAT (financial obligation of NATO members) has NOTHING whatsoever to do with our standing as an ally of Germany!



Stay on that subject a moment......Question: If the Financial Obligation of Germany has absolutely nothing to do with our standing with Germany......then what prompted Merkel to her commentary that Germany can no longer trust the United States?
 

Happy

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Value is something that is a judgement call to those who understand what value is vs mere opinion.With that said, I would advocate a policy of justice & In Rippons case nonintervention.....besides, I do not give opinion. Rippon on the other hand is an opinionated old prattling fishwife.

Personally I think VALUE of something in steeped in truth.
You made a statement about Trump, specific to him having a particular medical condition, then side-stepped revealing your comment has any basis in truth. I notice that, as well did Rippon. End of issue.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Personally I think VALUE of something in steeped in truth.
You made a statement about Trump, specific to him having a particular medical condition, then side-stepped revealing your comment has any basis in truth. I notice that, as well did Rippon. End of issue.

No its not. Trump is a phony, from start to finish. I know many men who went into the service of the Country, even with health concerns bigger than bone spurs. He had the means to correct his health issues but didn't do it......rather he used it as an excuse to avoid military service. I call that cowardice. So now we fast forward to his pushing & shoving people out of the way at a summit. Just who the heck does this character think he is? Who raised him? I blame his stinking parents for his infantile behavior and I blame him for never correcting it. If he had gone into the military two things would of happened.....he would have sent home to his mommy or he would have made himself into a man. I was just giving Trump what everyone has always given him......An excuse for repeated bad behavior.
 

Happy

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Stay on that subject a moment......


Excellent idea. See if you can follow along.

Question: If the Financial Obligation of Germany has absolutely nothing to do with our standing with Germany......then what prompted Merkel to her commentary that Germany can no longer trust the United States?

First you need to KNOW, WHAT NATO is.

NATO ~ North Atlantic Treaty Organization

^ ta da ~ An Organization formed BY Treaty between countries. Established 1949. Currently 28 countries.

The Countries who signed the Treaty made themselves SUBJECT TO the TREATY.

The Countries who made themselves SUBJECT TO the TREATY, did so out of CHOICE and became MEMBER Nations.

The PURPOSE of the establishment of NATO ~

"NATO’s essential purpose is to safeguard the freedom and security of its members through political and military means."
www.nato.int/nato-welcome/

The Treaty itself sets forth the Articles to which each Member Nation agrees to adhere.

Short of me doing ALL of your homework for you....You can look up the Treaty and read the Articles for yourself.

Trump addressed specifically Member Nations WHO do not contribute the AGREED amount PER the TREATY, to provide Security and DEFENSE within the NATO organization.

The AGREED AMOUNT is 2% of the individual Nations GPD ( which is 2% of the number arrived at according to the Member Nations individual Gross Domestic Product figure)

^ THAT has nothing to do with each individual nations separate Military Defense Programs and spending.

^ THAT has everything specifically to do with A Treaty that each MEMBER Nation Pledged to contribute TO NATO'S security and defense program.

"Only five of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization's 28 member countries last year met the alliance goal of spending at least 2% of their gross domestic product on defense." Here's who is paying the agreed-upon share to NATO — and who isn't

Well HELLO.... Five out of 28 are meeting their financial obligation of at least 2% GPD.

2017 the US contributed ~ 3.61 %

Trump ADDRESSED the NATO meeting with these alarming results. With his perspective on the matter, UNLIKE his predecessors WHO did not CALL OUT the MEMBER NATIONS to meet their pledged obligations!

Trumps message was loud and perfectly clear to the Member Nations who are acutely AWARE of NOT adhering to the Treaty by providing NATO with their pledged and obligated 2% GPD.

(While it is painfully obvious many reporters and citizens of said Members of NATO, haven't a clue what their own NATION is obligated to do.)

Trump FURTHER implied, IF some Member Nations are going to continue to FAIL at keeping their Word, they may come to find the US No Longer providing MORE than 2%.

Now enter Merkel's comment ~ Can't trust the US ? Concerning WHAT? Being an Ally? No. Being NATO'S piggy bank ,
and go to Nation to provide $$$$ when other Nations default on their own Word? AS Germany did? Precisely.

However a VERY deceptive word for Merkel to use in her comment....ie.....TRUST.....

When the TRUTH IS; It is her own Nation that defaults on their own Word, being not TRUSTWORTHY!



Denmark, 1.17%.

^ 5 Trump. The American taxpayer is NOT the World's piggy bank!
 

Happy

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No its not. Trump is a phony, from start to finish.

Your irrelevant personal opinion.

I know many men who went into the service of the Country, even with health concerns bigger than bone spurs.

Finally. You actually hint as to why you made the comment about a medical condition regarding Trump.

And so what, WHO you know? WHO you know has absolutely nothing to do with military law, procedures, inclusions or exclusions.

He had the means to correct his health issues but didn't do it.

Did some LAW compel him to take corrective measures? uh, nope!

.....rather he used it as an excuse to avoid military service.

According to the military, was Trumps reasoning to reveal his medical condition a viable reason for him to not serve?

Oops, by golly it was. And so what?

I call that cowardice.

So? I call it what it is. A valid reason ACCORDING to the MILITARY, for him to not serve in the military.
Additionally I call what you say on the matter, of HOW the Military conducts IT'S business and HOW Trump conducts HIS business, an irrelevant opinion.


Since we have ZERO documentation that YOU set the Military laws and rules and procedures, or that YOU have the authority to dictate WHAT choice Trump was obligated to make......yes, ok, moving on.

we fast forward to his pushing & shoving people out of the way at a summit.

Oops....you forgot to IDENTIFY "what PEOPLE" you are talking about.

Just who the heck does this character think he is?

Obviously you are out of the loop. I would without hesitation say, He is quite sure He is a successful businessman and the current President of the United States of America, and a man with a backbone to stand before the NATO delegates and call them out for VIOLATING their own Pledges! ooh rah!

Who raised him?

Again, you appear to be faltering on common knowledge, that Trump was raised by BOTH of His CITIZEN PARENTS, unlike the common knowledge of his predecessor!

I blame his stinking parents

I highly doubt you ever met Trumps parents, let alone "smelled" them. Maybe it is you and your imagination that needs a shower.

for his infantile behavior

I presume you are referring to your comment of Trump.....PushING and ShovING People....but oops, again I will remind you, you have not provide evidence of who these PEOPLE are, or how many times He was PushING and ShovING said People.

and I blame him for never correcting it.

I won't say I blame you for not providing NAMES of the PEOPLE you accuse Trump of pushING and shovING, but I will say it is your fault to make such claims without providing the NAMES. :)

If he had gone into the military

THAT option was between the military and Trump.

two things would of happened.....he would have sent home to his mommy or he would have made himself into a man. I was just giving Trump what everyone has always given him......An excuse for repeated bad behavior.

Seems your short-sightedness is unaware over 58,000 US military servants were declared dead. Yep some were sent home in caskets to their mommies! Oh and BTW, missing in action and POWs did not come home.

So you don't like Trump's behavior....so what? I push, touch, grab, hug, kiss, pat, other people, so what? I do not, nor does Trump, have to justify our behavior with others TO YOU, or anyone!

So why is YOUR opinion have any merit, when what you are griping about has nothing to do with you?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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I'm right, you're wrong would have been an sufficient and appropriate remark.
However I will accept your childs-play comment as being the high mark of your ability. :)

you don't get it do you ......you are arrogant. Personally you have nothing else of any consequence. So I am not going to waste my time & energy with you. Give it a minute, it will sink in. Bye!:Biggrin
 
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Happy

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you don't get it do you ......you are arrogant. Personally you have nothing else of any consequence. So I am not going to waste my time & energy with you. Give it a minute, it will sink in. Bye!:Biggrin

You would be wise to not confuse well studied with arrogance.
Some people do feel being exposed to new facts is a waste of time, and that is your choice. Thanks for sharing that tid-bit.

Buh bye. :)
 
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