The Fall did not affect God's morality.
God's morality is not in question - and God doesn't change - what changed is the earth and all it's inhabitants after Adam sinned and death came. God's justice requires that everything now dies, but God's mercy allows some to live. Again, this is entirely different from PRE-FALL world.
Isa 65:8 Thus saith the LORD, As the new wine is found in the cluster, and [one] saith, Destroy it not; for a blessing [is] in it: so will I do for my servants' sakes, that I may not destroy them all.
However, there's problems right away for a literal reading because Isaiah 65 is describing a time when "No more shall there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, or an old man who does not fill out his days, for the young man shall die a hundred years old, and the sinner a hundred years old shall be accursed" (v.20). So, this is a time when people still die, but they don't die young. Does this mean that God will remove predation before God does away with death?
You are compairing apples to oranges again.
Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
What is important here is not the comparrison between the old and the new, but a demonstration of God's character. What does God call Good? Clearly, a "good world" (in the eyes of God) is being described - whether it's literal or not, imagery or not. It is in stark contrast to death and struggle (survival of the fittest) being called 'good'.
In the other passage, the security is illustrated by how lions and other ravenous beasts will be banished. Same idea. Different imagery.
While I agree that it is discussing security and 'rest' I would say that a lion who eats straw and walks with children is not a 'ravenous beast'. The verse can be interpreted within the Biblical framework to show that lions are simply no longer carnivourous.
At a time when death is being swallowed up forever, God prepares a feast -- of meat!
Isaiah 25:6 (American Standard Version)
6 And in this mountain will Jehovah of hosts make unto all peoples a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined.
First of all - the 'fat things full of marrow' is in the context (both pre and post) of 'wines on the lees' - wine is made from fruit. Secondarily, the word for "marrow" here is the Hebrew word "machah". This word means "to wipe out; to obliterate; to blot out (from memory)". The word is most often translated as 'destruction'. The word has absolutely nothing to do with food, or meat - and if it wasn't in the context of a feast, there would be no reason to translate it this way. However, it is interesting that the word is often used to mean 'blot out' - such as blotting in this verse:
Exd 32:33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.
The phrase 'blot out' in this verse is that Hebrew word "machah". So whereas the 'communion feast' is in rememberance of Jesus, it would seem the feast spoken of in Isaiah 25:6 is with the opposite intent - with the intention of forgetting the corrupted world that was perhaps.
This is just one more piece of evidence that it is human death that is being swallowed up, not animal death.
Actually, it is one more 'piece of evidence' that evidence itself means nothing and must be interpreted properly.
God did not lie by placing starlight in the sky that shows a dynamic, real universe going back millions and billions of years.
Did god lie when he created Adam from the dust - fully formed and sexually mature? Did God lie when he created rocks out of nothing? Five minutes after God formed adam, if someone had looked at him they would have probably said he was in his 20's or 30's. But that would be wrong... he was 5 minutes old.
Once again, the 'evidence' does not say billions of years... only the misinterpretation of that evidence. But that is what happens when your presuppositions are wrong to begin with.
God did not lie by placing evidence of ancient age and evolution of life in the rocks of our earth.
No that was Lyle, not God (wink wink). Again, if the evidence available is correctly interpreted using the Bible's framework as your presuppositions, you get entirely different results.
You should actually try that sometime. His Word is the only absolute truth you will ever find. You should invest in believing it instead of fallible man.
SO if God used one process to create man than He loves us but if He deigned and chose to use a different process then you are willing to stand in judgement of God and say that this means that man is not loved by God and have no where to go?
Truth is truth. I stand for it, and upon it. Absolute truth is the Bible - God's Word. Whatever IT says about the situation is what is true... it's what I choose to believe above anything contrived by man. It's not that I judge God, but that I believe Him. My judgement is not of God, but of man - those who contradict God's Word.
2Cr 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
