Redemption From Sodomy

You cannot argue with a man who went to a liberal college and was brain washed not to believe the Bible as the inerrant Word of God. It is futile.

The only thing we can do is keep them from becoming leaders in our churches. End of discussion.

Jesus will settle the rest when we all face him and explain whether or not we spent our time spreading blasphemy or His Word.

 

Well said Brother Phillip. AMEN.

 

Your contention is merely contentious and nothing more. Your hero Scroggs uses the same fatally flawed argument that Boswell used. This argument has been refuted by numerous scholars, two of which I have provided links to. Your liberal anti-christian arguments are tired, old, and worthless. Your contention that monogamous adult homosexuality, independent women, and a world witout slavery not being "on the biblical writers radar,"is also fatally flawed because you deny the power of God to speak through His prophets and to preserve His revelation of His will and nature to man exactly as He saw fit to.

Yes, by your words you deny the power of God, the Word of God, and the Spirit of God, to your own peril. The word is replete with admonishments warning believers about these very things. So at no extra charge, I will quote a few of them for the edification of the saints.

Let's look at some of the key traits of false prophets / teachers / shepherds.

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• 1) They lie.
  2) They do not expose sin.
  
  3) They love evil rather than good.
  
  4) They whitewash evil deeds.
  
  5) They are godless.
  
  6) They are disguised as sheep.
  
  7) They introduce destructive heresies.
  
  8) They subvert the grace of God.
  
  9) They blaspheme.
  
  10) They distort the truth.
  
  11) They despise authority.
  
  12) Their words are empty.
  
  13) They appeal to the desires of the flesh.
  
  14) They promise freedom.
  
  15) They are slaves of depravity.
  
  16) They never stop sinning.
  
  17) They make up stories.
  
  18) They are bold and arrogant.
  
  19) They have wandered away from the truth.
  
  20) They deny the Lord.</font>

Anyone here resemble this?

 

No, no one here, but it does look like it describes about 95% of the American Public. And 95% of the English public.

So get the fires buring and stones polished up.

 

De 23:17 makes it pretty clear what a sodomite is held to be. Scripture contrasts the meaning against a female prostitute. So it means a Male Prostitute. Yes, some male prostitues have sex with men, that too is wrong because all of a prostitutes sex is outside marriage.

But Sodomite it clearly must be tied to the act of prostitution. Any sex act outside marriage.

 

http://www.leaderu.com/stonewall/issues/marco2.html

 

http://www.leaderu.com/jhs/dallas.html

 

"It's Not Gay" presents a story that few have heard, allowing former homosexuals the opportunity to tell their own story in their own words. ...
http://www.itsnotgay.com

We get hundreds of calls from homosexuals around the country looking for help, and for hope. Stephen Bennett Ministries.
http://www.SBMinistries.org

 

I emailed SB Ministries a few days ago to encourage him and to let him know I emailed Bill O'Reilly and chewed him out good fashion!

Russ &lt;&gt;&lt;

 

Yep.. I did the same thing. Talk about being blind-sided!

 

I think this is a sign of how out-of-touch the far right wings of both Christianity and the Republican party are. Even socially conservative pundits like O'Reilly don't find fault with homosexuality. Despite what it looks like here, those opposed to homosexuality are a dwindling minority (alongside those opposed to equal rights for women and racial minorities).

Joshua

 

As you well know, orthodoxy is also on the decline. However, in the case of truth, the majority does not rule. God rules. Period.

Rev. G

[ September 29, 2002, 09:26 PM: Message edited by: Rev. G ]

 

Blow to the cheek absorbed without damage due to standing on the firm foundation of Christ and His gospel, Joshua... Turning the other the cheek now...

 

That just proves Jesus right once again:

So what if those against homosexuality are in the minority? Since when being in the minority supposed to be an indication that a thing is right? Friend, your logic is flawed, not to mention your theology. You seem to find comfort in numbers. You have a "herd" mentality (2 Peter 2:12). You have plenty of company, others in the past have also. I guess we conservative Bible believers have been reduced to "troublers of Israel" in both your's and your peers' eyes. But you know what? That's ok.

Seems Elijah was in the minority too.

You sir, have pulled up a chair at Jezebel's table. May God have mercy on you.

Russ &lt;&gt;&lt;

 

Maybe not, but praise Jesus, an ever growing number of ex-homosexuals do.

Russ &lt;&gt;&lt;

 

So what if those against homosexuality are in the minority? Since when being in the minority supposed to be an indication that a thing is right?

Whether or not one os in the majority or the minority is irrelevant to being right or wrong. It's simply an indicator of how many people agree with you.

 

I agree, the only reservation I would have to number 3 would not be related to sodomites unless they have a history of child molestation whether bisexual or homosexual. I would allow them back in the church, but they would have to submit to being escourted by adult volunteers or at least kept away from the kids.

Speaking of homosexuals-----three times when I was young I was approached and solicited by child molesters-----strange enough all three were full grown men. Two were teachers.

I agree with everything you say above about the sin, but I have a REAL problem when a preacher claims to be Baptist would say to the world that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. I, as Paul would have done, must question their salvation. Sorry, but the Bible is pretty blunt about recognizing and dealing with sinful lifestyles "in Christ's kingdom".</font>[/QUOTE]No sir, you don’t hide your children, you cast out such a one that is doing these acts… If they are truly saved they will deny themselves and follow Christ… Let anyone that nameth the name of the Lord, depart from iniquity….. Amen!

 

I think this is a sign of how out-of-touch the far right wings of both Christianity and the Republican party are. Even socially conservative pundits like O'Reilly don't find fault with homosexuality. Despite what it looks like here, those opposed to homosexuality are a dwindling minority (alongside those opposed to equal rights for women and racial minorities).

Joshua</font>[/QUOTE]Well, Joshua, as far as I know O'Reilly has never professed to be born again. Also, I heard O'Reilly state the Bible is a book of stories and fables, or something to that effect. O'Reilly doesn't find fault with homosexuality because in spite of claiming to be the "no spin zone" he is pandering to political correctness of a certain sexual orientation agenda. He seemed to relax his stance quite a bit after the Rosie interview, I noticed, too. O'Reilly is Catholic, and while bashing the RCC for the pedophile priests (and rightly so), I haven't seen yet where the RCC officially condones homosexuality as no longer a sin, even though they have been infiltrated in their seminaries by gay males.

Right wing Christians and Republicans may be out of touch with political correctness in America or the rest of the "anything goes" code of morality on this planet, but the last I read in my KJV, I don't stand before a homosexual or sodomite as my ultimate judge in the hereafter. Praise God.

However, He does state He will hold certain people in derision one day.

Romans Chapter One. Selah.