Redemption From Sodomy

[Phillip]

Originally posted by Rev. Joshua:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JamesJ:
Yep.. I did the same thing. Talk about being blind-sided!

I think this is a sign of how out-of-touch the far right wings of both Christianity and the Republican party are. Even socially conservative pundits like O'Reilly don't find fault with homosexuality. Despite what it looks like here, those opposed to homosexuality are a dwindling minority (alongside those opposed to equal rights for women and racial minorities).

Joshua</font>[/QUOTE]That is simple to answer, help me scholars, I am too tired to look this up tonight, but what does Jesus say about the narrow road and that the "majority" will not find it?

Bro. Joshua, what is your view on abortion? You take on all the other characteristics of full fledged left winged liberals.

 

[JamesJ]

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[ October 07, 2002, 07:09 PM: Message edited by: JamesJ ]

 

[TomVols]

Despite what it looks like here, those opposed to homosexuality are a dwindling minority (alongside those opposed to equal rights for women and racial minorities).

Joshua, equating homosexual behavior with the racism and sexism our culture has been guilty of is logically baseless and appalling. It is saddening that you'd make such a statement my friend.

 

[C.S. Murphy]

Amen Tom
Murph

 

[Pennsylvania Jim]

Originally posted by TomVols:

Joshua, equating homosexual behavior with the racism and sexism our culture has been guilty of is logically baseless and appalling. It is saddening that you'd make such a statement my friend.

Yes, but effective among the masses who are led astray by those like Joshua.

[ October 08, 2002, 10:53 PM: Message edited by: Pennsylvania Jim ]

 

[Mike McK]

Originally posted by SheEagle911:

Well, Joshua, as far as I know O'Reilly has never professed to be born again.

Lapsed Catholic.

O'Reilly doesn't find fault with homosexuality because in spite of claiming to be the "no spin zone" he is pandering to political correctness of a certain sexual orientation agenda.

For somebody in a "no spin zone", he does spin quite a bit. I don't think it's a gay thing, though.

 

[stubbornkelly]

I just noticed something -- the title of this thread is "Redemption From Sodomy." No, I noticed that before, but I guess I'm wondering if anyone sees the distinction between sodomy and homosexuality?

 

[Johnv]

That's what I wanna know. Why is it we're equating sodomy with homosexuality? That's not the topic of the thread. I get from reading the threads that the general concensus is that sodomy only applies to same gender activity. I don't think that's the case. My reading is that sodomy is similar to fornication; in other words, it's a sexual activity, and therefore allowed in a marital relationship.

My two cents is, if two people are married, what they do in the course of a loving sexual relationship is entirely up to them, and not sinful.

[ December 02, 2002, 06:55 PM: Message edited by: Johnv ]

 

[Dave Bussard]

Thanks to this thread I have found one thing that wrenches my stomach muscles more than two men having sex...Men that have sex with each other and then preach 'jesus.'

Sorry, I just couldn't find the strength to capitalize Jesus in the above sentence.

Dave

 

[hrhema]

Watching the history channel one night when they had a program called Sexuality in the Ancient World made me realize that probably the majority of men in the Corinthian Church had one time been involved in homosexuality.

The men of Greece were very bi-sexual. THey usually married women only for procreation and for prestige but their desires were homo-sexual.
Those who were affluent usually had many young male lovers. It was very common for these men to have homosexual relationships with their male slaves and servants. This was a highly acceptable way of life in Greece and even amongst the affluent of Rome. This was what Paul was dealing with when he wrote to the Roman Church. Greek influence was powerful in Rome along with its homosexual philosophies and lifestyles.

PAul was not dealing with male prostitutes but with men and women who thought it was ok to continue in this lifestyle as Christians. These sexual sins were abhorrent to Jews and Paul having been a Pharisee at one time had to take a stand against this sin.

Nothing has changed from that day to this day as far as God and what he stated. Paul was speaking under the unction of the Holy Spirit and made it very clear that those who commit these acts are reprobate in the eyes of God.

 

[Johnv]

hrhema,

if I can expand a bit on your thought. Paul was dealing with a society where men and women had traditional marriages, but that the men were also having casual sex with other men at the local meeting places (public baths, etc). From what I had read, it was an issue they were trying to deal with societally. Paul was attempting to assert the Christian viewpoint on what was already a social issue. He was saying to keep the traditional marriages, but to abandon the extramarital practices. That's one of the reasons Paul tends to lump adultery, fornication, and sodomy somewhat together in his writings. Not that they were worse than other sins, but that they were the sins that the Corinthian church and society had to deal with.

 

[Fisherman]

Mt.12:31