One verse out of context, just like a Muslim or all other cults do. Nice job.
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Regeneration vs Conversion
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Tha't right that is why there is a second death. Death killed by death. How do you kill death. The blood of Jesus no more sin, no more death. Yes no one is righteous but that is why we have Jesus blood. he has many ages to save all mankind. I am preach a good news. You are preaching doom and gloom there is no gospel or good news when your god looses so badly and trillions will be tortured in your man made Catholic hell.
What are you talking about? If you are referring to Ps. 90 the verse has all the context with in the verse. Gives you the action and the time frame. Problem is it does not fit with you're doom and gloom god. Any you refuse to see it. Everything must fit into you man made baptist box or it a lie.
I do not believe man by his own will, can or has to, reach out and grasp, reach out and take, reach out and receive, the Spirit of God.
I believe God reaches out to one and indwells him with the Spirit of God.
Paul was going to Damascus for the purpose of imprisoning and or killing those of, the way. Jesus called him, showed him he was spiritually blind by blinding him and three days later indwelt him with the Spirit of Truth opining his mind and giving him his physical sight also.
Paul was ignorant in unbelief until, by the Spirit, he became of belief, of faith.
A thought.
What was Satan doing in the garden of God, Eden? Why did God put the man he had made in the presence of Satan? To test the man? Or for the following purpose. So that the Son of God could be manifested as a man for purpose? 1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Who was being tested the man of Satan? Did not, the man, do his job? Consider:
Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through (the) death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
From whence cometh, the death, of the man, his children and Jesus who took part of the same?
I am carnal (of flesh and blood) [Lev 17:11] sold under sin.
For the purpose of redemption, foreordained before the foundation of the world. The means by which the devil and his works shall be destroyed.
Romans 16:20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.
Show us "predestined universalism" in Ps 90.
Psalms 90:1-17
[1]Lord, through all the generations you have been our home!
[2]Before the mountains were born, before you gave birth to the earth and the world, from beginning to end, you are God.
[3]You turn people back to dust, saying, “Return to dust, you mortals!”
[4]For you, a thousand years are as a passing day, as brief as a few night hours.
[5]You sweep people away like dreams that disappear. They are like grass that springs up in the morning.
[6]In the morning it blooms and flourishes, but by evening it is dry and withered.
[7]We wither beneath your anger; we are overwhelmed by your fury.
[8]You spread out our sins before you— our secret sins—and you see them all.
[9]We live our lives beneath your wrath, ending our years with a groan.
[10]Seventy years are given to us! Some even live to eighty. But even the best years are filled with pain and trouble; soon they disappear, and we fly away.
[11]Who can comprehend the power of your anger? Your wrath is as awesome as the fear you deserve.
[12]Teach us to realize the brevity of life, so that we may grow in wisdom.
[13]O lord, come back to us! How long will you delay? Take pity on your servants!
[14]Satisfy us each morning with your unfailing love, so we may sing for joy to the end of our lives.
[15]Give us gladness in proportion to our former misery! Replace the evil years with good.
[16]Let us, your servants, see you work again; let our children see your glory.
[17]And may the Lord our God show us his approval and make our efforts successful. Yes, make our efforts successful!
No I think he's just calling your twisted idea of God a monster.
We love God, Just because a person doesn't believe God is Hitler doesn't make a person blasphemer of God.
Name one living person who would be WORST at being GOD then your idea of God. I bet we can prove anything better. My dog can do better job.
The only thing that upsets folks is they know we 100% right its just folks are too chicken under their terrorist tyrant to speak the truth. Heaven forbid if they got brave they wouldn't care what gun they got to their head and speak up.
You cover up and hide the hatred you have of your own idea of God.
If God showed up in person and told you to your face and said "I LOVE ALL AND WISH ALL TO BE SAVED"
What is the reaction to that? Your going to be upset?
Jonah 3
10When God saw their deeds, that they turned from their wicked way, then God relented concerning the calamity which He had declared He would bring upon them. And He did not do it.
If you read the whole of Jonah 3 God declared them all reprobates and said he was going to destroy them
Folks believe God will destroy them. What's the reaction?
Jonah 3
9“Who knows, God may turn and relent and withdraw His burning anger so that we will not perish.”
Notice they didn't just light up a cigarette and say whelp.....maybe we will be elect.
They sought to change God's mind.......AND DO.
God doesn't take back the declaration, He declares he will destroy them and then HE DID NOT DO IT. How about a Calvinist fit for that.
"Your God has no justice and is subservient to your demands."
God desires Mercy. God so loved the world he let his son die for us, there is nothing more subservient and humble possible.
Matthew 23
11“But the greatest among you shall be your servant. 12“Whoever exalts himself shall be humbled; and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted.
You don't get this because you think being subservient is weakness.
There is no one more subservient and humble then GOD.
You only understand a "GOD" that steps on you. God is not selfish or evil. He carries all on his shoulders as he does the cross.
You call that weakness. When Christ carries that cross that's the most strength your ever going to know.
It's not my idea. It's what God says about sinners in the Bible.
I don't call God Hitler. You are the one claiming that I do. Your comment has zero biblical merit, yet you call God Hitler when God says the wages of sin is death.
That's a moronic statement from you, utilyan. Every created being would be worse than God at being God.
What is sad is that your God is unjust.
Put your dog on the computer and have him/her type in a reply. [emoji57]
What does this even mean? LOL
Hmmm...somehow you imagine I hate what God says about the wages of sin. Interesting. Do go on...
Interesting that you say "if." This means you consider it hypothetical.
The reality is that God is Sovereign. He has full authority to choose as He wills...regardless of our personal opinions. I will let God do as He wishes and praise Him.
Did all those whom God chose to grant more time on earth become adopted members of God's family? Can you extrapolate that from Jonah 3?
I assume you are quoting me.
God is merciful everyday in not sending sending humanity to hell, yet not all humanity is aware of His mercy. God's wrath will still fall in judgment because of our sin. Either Jesus blood pardons us by God's grace or it doesn't.
Does God make all humanity alive in Christ?
I get the fact that Moroni and you are placing yourselves above God.
What scripture do you have for this?
I understand a God of grace who chooses to pardon those whom He wills.
Who claimed God was selfish or evil? That's your claim about Reformed theology. Your claim is false.
Jesus already carried the cross. He calls me to follow and carry my cross as well.
God's unmerited favor towards me is wonderful. I can never thank Him enough.
Do you know God's unmerited favor in your own life, utilyan?
You are preaching a false Gospel, and your theology does not come from the Bible!
God can stilll bethe God of love and condemn sinners due to their unbelief, correct?
God does not condemn us due to not believing. God condemns us due to breaking His rules.
God determines, by His will, whom He will pardon and whom He will not pardon.
Our belief comes after we have been reconciled with God, not before.
We are all already guilty by being born into Adam. and the spiritual rebirth into Christ redeemed us!
You do not understand English apparently. "Damnable" in this verse is an adjective describing a noun - which is "heresies" in this case. It is not saying "shall bring in heresies such as eternal damnation".
Really? What kind of love is torture trillions of of his creation God created. I thought Jesus died for all men. Are you saying his death did not complete the work. I am sorry I would never serve such a evil god. My Jesus is a redeemer of all people both just and unjust.
This verse was written in Greek and yes it is calling you a heretic for your doctrines of damnations
Why would we be guilty of being born in Adam? This was God's will. Psalm 90
Actually you look it up in the Book of Revelations that's how it's written. So who's being faults?
Still waiting for your comments on Matthew 25? You claim to be a theologian address of this. That I addressed
Click on his screen name in his post. A black box will appear. On the far right is the word "ignore." Click on it.
I did!... You can too but don't break any rules!... Brother Glen
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