Featured Renouncing the Catholic faith formally

If you're looking for objective history, you won't find it in Romanism.

It has been pointed out how disunited the early churches were. You have been shown that the RCC claims about Peter are a lie, including his burial place. You have been shown how the NT proves the RCC hierarchy wrong and a lie. Believe lies if you wish, but willingly doing so when you have been shown better is a dangerous path.

 

Jesus only formed One church and it was formed on His Apostles, not on any future mere-men.

 

The Apostles were mere men.

 

You really need to pick up a history book. Start with Baker's Christian history.

Eusebius*gave us a good eye witness account of the counsel of Nicea. Here he speaks of Constantine:
"He convinced some with his arguments, and won round others by entreaty. When anyone spoke well, he applauded. Urging them to be of one mind, he eventually succeeded in bringing them to agreement on all the issues before them."

History shows Constantine called the shots. History shows Charlemagne invaded Christian nations and forced Catholicism on them. Forced submission to Rome. You can't deny that. You can't blame that on LaHaye or Brown.....who has far as I know haven't wrote church history.....read Baker, Kelley, Lynch, or Bredero...heck read Eusebius's eye witness account. The emperor was running the show, not any bishop.

 

What the heck is "mere men".....is it like a werewolf? Or maybe a male mermaid????

...I know what you mean....I am just kidding.

 

So....that knocks the RCC out. Which was built by Constantine and Charlemagne.

 

Revmitchell, maybe according to you, but not according to Jesus. Jesus only commissioned His Apostles, He gave them His authority to ordain future clergy as the Bible explains. Jesus never ordained any future men, but He did give His Apostles that power as per Bible.

 

All men are "mere". No man not us not Paul not Peter are anything but "mere". Raising men to anything else is worship of men. Of course that is what Catholics do they worship people by creating "Saints" and statues as well a Mary.

 

Revmitchell, yes I have to agree,Jesus only choose mere men to do God's calling, as per Bible, but the difference is that not one of those mere men was your church's founder as found inclusively or exclusively in any Holy Bible.

 

I'll stay with my present position as a ' soldier of Christ ' . I'm not sure if you would qualify. Please let me know if you find out if you do qualify. I am not allowed to explain [ for fear of being banned ] to you the qualifications to becoming a "soldier of Christ ".

 

As a good soldier would you have followed Innocent III had you lived in that era?

 

Here is what the "soldiers of the one true church" did, just one of countless atrocities:


Piedmont Easter

In January 1655, the Duke of Savoy commanded the Waldensians to attend Mass or remove to the upper valleys of their homeland, giving them twenty days in which to sell their lands. Being in the midst of winter, the order, of course, was intended to persuade the Vaudois to choose the former; however, the bulk of the populace instead chose the latter, abandoning their homes and lands in the lower valleys and removing to the upper valleys. It was written that these targets of persecution, including old men, women, little children and the sick "waded through the icy waters, climbed the frozen peaks, and at length reached the homes of their impoverished brethren of the upper Valleys, where they were warmly received."

By mid-April, when it became clear that the Duke's efforts to force the Vaudois to conform to Catholicism had failed, he tried another approach. Under the guise of false reports of Vaudois uprisings, the Duke sent troops into the upper valleys to quell the local populace. He required that the local populace quarter the troops in their homes, which the local populace complied with. But the quartering order was a ruse to allow the troops easy access to the populace. On 24 April 1655, at 4 a.m., the signal was given for a general massacre.

The Catholic forces did not simply slaughter the inhabitants. They are reported to have unleashed an unprovoked campaign of looting, rape, torture, and murder. According to one report by a Peter Liegé:

Little children were torn from the arms of their mothers, clasped by their tiny feet, and their heads dashed against the rocks; or were held between two soldiers and their quivering limbs torn up by main force. Their mangled bodies were then thrown on the highways or fields, to be devoured by beasts. The sick and the aged were burned alive in their dwellings. Some had their hands and arms and legs lopped off, and fire applied to the severed parts to staunch the bleeding and prolong their suffering. Some were flayed alive, some were roasted alive, some disemboweled; or tied to trees in their own orchards, and their hearts cut out. Some were horribly mutilated, and of others the brains were boiled and eaten by these cannibals. Some were fastened down into the furrows of their own fields, and ploughed into the soil as men plough manure into it. Others were buried alive. Fathers were marched to death with the heads of their sons suspended round their necks. Parents were compelled to look on while their children were first outraged [raped], then massacred, before being themselves permitted to die.[26]

This massacre became known as the Piedmont Easter. An estimate of some 1,700 Waldensians were slaughtered; the massacre was so brutal it aroused indignation throughout Europe. Protestant rulers in northern Europe offered sanctuary to the remaining Waldensians. Oliver Cromwell, then ruler in England, began petitioning on behalf of the Waldensians; writing letters, raising contributions, calling a general fast in England and threatening to send military forces to the rescue. (The massacre prompted John Milton's famous poem on the Waldenses, "On the Late Massacre in Piedmont".)[27] Swiss and Dutch Calvinists set up an 'underground railroad' to bring many of the survivors north to Switzerland and even as far as the Dutch Republic, where the councillors of the city of Amsterdam chartered three ships to take some 167 Waldensians to their City Colony in the New World (Delaware) on Christmas Day 1656.[28] Those that stayed behind in France and the Piedmont formed a guerilla resistance movement led by a farmer, Joshua Janavel, which lasted into the 1660s.[29]

 

It was a little too late for Hus, though.

 

I believe DHK is reffering to the 4th crusade when the pope had Constantinople sacked. He wanted their wealth to support his war and he wanted the eastern orthodox churches under his control. Pretty sure they tried to burn it to the ground the second year.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Innocent_III

 

....or that

Too many things to keep up with.