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Repeal DOMA? Some Democrats Don't Agree With Obama

KenH

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What about all of the STDs? All of which, including AIDS, have more heterosexual cases than homosexual cases.

I think there are far more effective ways to argue against government approval of homosexual "marriage" than to constantly bring up the Sodom and Gomorrah incident that took place thousands of years ago.
 
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Revmitchell

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KenH said:
What about all of the STDs? All of which, including AIDS, have more heterosexual cases than homosexual cases.

I think there are far more effective ways to argue against government approval of homosexual "marriage" than to constantly bring up the Sodom and Gomorrah incident that took place thousands of years ago.

This is incorrect about aids.
 

Bro. Curtis

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KenH said:
What about all of the STDs? All of which, including AIDS, have more heterosexual cases than homosexual cases.
This isn't true, C. Everett Koop even admitted such...I'll try and find a link.

I think there are far more effective ways to argue against government approval of homosexual "marriage" than to constantly bring up the Sodom and Gomorrah incident that took place thousands of years ago.

And there must be another way to heaven, besides the cross, why be so dogmatic on something that happened so long ago ?
 

righteousdude2

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WRONG my Brother...just dead wrong!

dragonfly said:
I think your posting is hyperbole. I can support the candidate which I think will do the best job as president without agreeing with all his policies.
I say that your vote for Obama is a vote for the man and all of his policies. To say that you: "can support the candidate which you think will do the best job as president without agreeing with all his policies," is a cop-out. Your vote is a vote of confidence in his values, beliefs and policies. Obama and his camp will tell the world that: "all of those who voted for him, voted for his values, policies and beliefs."

Shalom...

Pastor Paul :type:
 

Baptist in Richmond

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John18 said:
I find it disturbing that someone would support and vote for a man that is for abortion and gay marriage/civil unions.

We are warned about homosexuality and we have been told what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah.

We have been warned about those that call evil good and good evil yet it seems that many have chosen to ignore this.

We have seen over and over again in the Bible what has happened to those nations that turn their back on God.The US is not exempt from the same fate.

When a person casts a vote,they are supporting what that candidate stands for,you cant pick and choose what you approve of and then turn around and say that we need morals in our country.

When a candidate is a liberal as Obama,a 95 out of 100 score on the liberal scale,it is rather scary that someone can support him.

The US is in a dangerous situation and it seems that many have left the old paths and are following the new.

It seems that many are trying to straddle the fence when it comes to political candidates.

On one side,they support what they consider to be good while they then on the other side say that morals are needed.

People,you cant have it both ways.You cant support a candidate on some issues while you over look the huge ones that are destryong our nation.

Homosexuality and abortion are things that are going to bring our nation to ruin and many seem to overlook the destrucive nature of their acts.

That's funny: exactly for whom are you going to vote to take on the two issues that you see as the most important? The GOP controlled all three branches of government, and they didn't do anything to reverse the decision handed down by Roe v. Wade. Abortion is still legal, isn't it? Despite any pledges or promises by those in the GOP, nothing has changed. Let's face it: these are simply two issues that resurface every two years to take advantage of the fact that the GOP owns a large chuck of two-issue voters who simply vote and won't hold their elected officials accountable for the promises they make.

Abortion and homosexuality are not destroying our nation. Both have been around for many years. There are much bigger issues that are "bring[ing] our nation to ruin." Perhaps if some of you would look beyond your two issues you would see that America is in serious trouble, and it has nothing to do with people who have abortions or homosexuals. Until then, it will get worse and worse. In some ways, the two-issuer voters can rest assured that they participated........

Regards,
BiR
 

Magnetic Poles

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righteousdude2 said:
I say that your vote for Obama is a vote for the man and all of his policies. To say that you: "can support the candidate which you think will do the best job as president without agreeing with all his policies," is a cop-out. Your vote is a vote of confidence in his values, beliefs and policies. Obama and his camp will tell the world that: "all of those who voted for him, voted for his values, policies and beliefs."

Shalom...

Pastor Paul :type:
So Paul, does every vote you have ever cast put you in total agreement on every issue with the candidate you selected? I have never found any candidate I agree on 100% of issues with.
 

carpro

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Magnetic Poles said:
So Paul, does every vote you have ever cast put you in total agreement on every issue with the candidate you selected? I have never found any candidate I agree on 100% of issues with.

MP is not "a single issue voter". :rolleyes:
 

just-want-peace

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KenH said:
One incident of direct judgment that happened thousands of years ago that has not been repeated even though such activity has continued all these years.
And you know this - how?
 

John18

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Here is a link to the Obama letter that some seem to think isnt true.

http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?id=27510

He also did a set down interview with the Advocate.

Yes,I DO find it disturbing that someone could vote for a man that has an ideology that goes against morality as Obama does.

Anyone that votes for this man IS putting their approval on him,you CAN NOT seperate that,to do so is straddling the fence.

Do I agree with everything a candidate does,no,probably not but it is OUR duty to uphold morality and you CANT do that if you vote for a candidate that holds to immoral issues.

It is up to us to vote for a person that has the best moral grounds and Obama isnt the one.

As far as Sodom and Gom.,it was GIVEN to us as an example and anyone that belittles it needs to think long and hard about their own self.

The destruction of Sodam and Gom. could happen to the US at anytime.We dont know what may happen.Look at New Orleans,that could have been a small warning of what is about to come.

Look at all of the tornadoes that have hit in the last few weeks in the Midwest.These may be warnings and if many are as some here on the board,they dont ever consider such.
 

KenH

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John18 said:
1) Do I agree with everything a candidate does,no,probably not but it is OUR duty to uphold morality and you CANT do that if you vote for a candidate that holds to immoral issues.

2) Look at New Orleans,that could have been a small warning of what is about to come.

1) The United States is not a theocracy.

2) So you agree with Pastor Hagee whom Senator JSM III has rejected?
 

John18

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KenH said:
1) The United States is not a theocracy.

2) So you agree with Pastor Hagee whom Senator JSM III has rejected?

First,Me voting for a conservative candidate is NO more a theocracy than you voting for a candidade that has few if any morals.

Obama is for partial birth abortion and even went as far as to deny a baby that survives an abortion no medical attention.How cold and cruel can a he be? http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?id=28083

Second,I dont keep tabs on Pastor Hagee,I dont really know much about him.He is probably a fine man,I just dont know much of him.
 
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KenH

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John18 said:
First,Me voting for a consevative candidate is NO more a theocracy than you voting for a candidade that has few if any morals.

If that is the standard that you are going to use then I assume you won't vote for Senator JSM III since he has admitted to having an affair with the woman he is now married to while he was still married to his previous wife.
 

ajg1959

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KenH said:
If that is the standard that you are going to use then I assume you won't vote for Senator JSM III since he has admitted to having an affair with the woman he is now married to while he was still married to his previous wife.


I can forgive and forget a past sin, but I am leery of people that are engaged in current sin to the degree that they even proclaim that sin to be godly.

I assume that Obama, Clinton and others that claim to be Christians and to hold to Christian/Biblical standards, believe that abortion and gay marriage are godly.

If they dont think these issues are godly then they are liars when they claim to hold to Christian/Biblical standards.

Cant serve two masters.

AJ
 

John18

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KenH said:
If that is the standard that you are going to use then I assume you won't vote for Senator JSM III since he has admitted to having an affair with the woman he is now married to while he was still married to his previous wife.

I dont know who you speak of,he isnt a candidate in my state.
 

KenH

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One can be a Christian and at the same time think that the abortion issue and the homosexual "marriage" issue are areas that the federal government should stay out of.

The repeal of Roe v. Wade(which I support) would not outlaw abortion but leave it up to the individual states to decide just as it had been before Roe v. Wade. I suppoort DOMA as it does the same thing - it leaves the issue of recognizing homosexual "marriage" up to the individual states.
 

KenH

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John18 said:
I dont know who you speak of,he isnt a candidate in my state.

The Republican presidential nominee, Senator John Sidney McCain III, will not be on the ballot in Kentucky? :confused:
 
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