Repeal DOMA? Some Democrats Don't Agree With Obama

[ajg1959]

One can be a Christian and at the same time think that the abortion issue and the homosexual "marriage" issue are areas that the federal government should stay out of.

The repeal of Roe v. Wade(which I support) would not outlaw abortion but leave it up to the individual states to decide just as it had been before Roe v. Wade. I suppoort DOMA as it does the same thing - it leaves the issue of recognizing homosexual "marriage" up to the individual states.

Sorry Ken, you are a fellow Arkansan, and I love all Hog fans......

But you are trying to straddle the fence on these issues, and from a biblical standpoint I dont understand that. God says we are for or against Him, never says to be nuetral. In fact, in Revelation Jesus says that he would rather us to be either hot or cold than to be lukewarm. He said that He would spew the lukewarm church from His mouth.....(I dont wish to be vomitted up by the Lord).

Anyway, we as christians need to take a stand on social and moral issues, because once we pass laws to enact ungodly things, it is hard to reverse them. These issues could damage our country for generations to come.

AJ

 

[KenH]

Anyway, we as christians need to take a stand on social and moral issues

I voted for adding a homosexual marriage ban to the state constitution in 2004. I would do the same for an abortion ban if given the opportunity.

Did you and would you?

 

[ajg1959]

I voted for adding a homosexual marriage ban to the state constitution in 2004. I would do the same for an abortion ban if given the opportunity.

Did you and would you?

Absolutely.

But this just makes it harder to understand why you support candidates that promote just the opposite.

AJ

 

[KenH]

I am a federalist. I don't want the federal government dictating to the states, just as I don't want a hierarchy dictating to individual Baptist churches.

 

[Whowillgo]

I am a federalist. I don't want the federal government dictating to the states, just as I don't want a hierarchy dictating to individual Baptist churches.

And I can see your point but look at what God says about govenment. I am no fan of big govenment but I also realize that as an American the foundation of our laws came from the Bible. When we compare unfair taxes or other government actions with the protection of what is most cherished by Christians, God's moral laws then we have simply made legal that which God called immoral.

 

[KenH]

Look, anyone is welcome to attempt to vote in a theocracy in the United States. I and others are just as welcome to work against voting in a theocracy in the United States.

 

[John18]

The Republican presidential nominee, Senator John Sidney McCain III, will not be on the ballot in Kentucky?

I have never heard him called JSM,yes McCain is on the ticket but I didnt vote for him.

I would rather have a more social conservative than he but he beats obama by a landslide.

Is he perfect? No,none of us are.

Has JSM promoted his wrondoings?

Obama makes huge issues of his immorality.He promotes it probably on a daily basis by promoting abortion and gay marriage.

How is voting for a candiade with morals voting for a theocracy?

If those that say they are for morality dont uphold it,who will?

 

[KenH]

IHow is voting for a candiade with morals voting for a theocracy?

Do you consider Senator JSM III to be a candidate with morals in spite of his past immorality?

 

[John18]

Do you consider Senator JSM III to be a candidate with morals in spite of his past immorality?

You are trying to compare two totally different issues.Yes,McCain did wrong,all of us have.

However,when a person continues to follow a path for years and years,one has to take their past into consideration.

Obama continues to promote sin,he does so by being a huge advocate for abortion and gay marriage.He is morally bankrupt on these issues.

 

[KenH]

I see you are attempting to justify perhaps voting for Senator JSM III in the general election?

 

[John18]

I see you are attempting to justify perhaps voting for Senator JSM III in the general election?

When it comes to voting for a man that made a mistake against one that continues to follow an immoral path,yes.

 

[KenH]

Then you are operating under a double standard, John18, and you have no business condemning others as to how they vote.

 

[John18]

Then you are operating under a double standard, John18, and you have no business condemning others as to how they vote.

How is it a double standard?

McCain did something in his PAST,just as we ALL have.

Obama CONTINUES to promote immorality.

Two different things.

 

[KenH]

Not really, John18. But I understand your need to justify potentially voting for Senator JSM III.

 

[carpro]

1) The United States is not a theocracy.

This one is a strong backup for "I'm not a single issue voter" as an excuse for putting aside ones Christianity during an election.

 

[dragonfly]

I say that your vote for Obama is a vote for the man and all of his policies. To say that you: "can support the candidate which you think will do the best job as president without agreeing with all his policies," is a cop-out. Your vote is a vote of confidence in his values, beliefs and policies. Obama and his camp will tell the world that: "all of those who voted for him, voted for his values, policies and beliefs."

Shalom...

Pastor Paul :type:

With all due respect pastor, I don't really care what you think about who I vote for. I don't answer to you or to your sense of what my vote entails. As of now, I plan to vote for Obama. This can change, but I doubt it. I do know that I will not vote for McCain or any other republican this time around.

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

This isn't true, C. Everett Koop even admitted such...I'll try and find a link.

It IS true, if you are referring to AIDS as what it is - a worldwide epidemic. It may or may not be the case in the US, but it is most certainly the case for the entire planet.

Regards,
BiR

BTW, Bro. Curtis - I trust that all is well with you and yours. I am still praying for you twice daily.

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

I say that your vote for Obama is a vote for the man and all of his policies. To say that you: "can support the candidate which you think will do the best job as president without agreeing with all his policies," is a cop-out. Your vote is a vote of confidence in his values, beliefs and policies. Obama and his camp will tell the world that: "all of those who voted for him, voted for his values, policies and beliefs."

So, exactly who is the candidate with whom you are in total agreement?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

It IS true, if you are referring to AIDS as what it is - a worldwide epidemic. It may or may not be the case in the US, but it is most certainly the case for the entire planet.

Regards,
BiR

BTW, Bro. Curtis - I trust that all is well with you and yours. I am still praying for you twice daily.

I am referring to a UPI report dated Feb 19, 1988, that has Koop, testifying under oath, that only 4% of worldwide AIDS cases were from heterosexual contact, and most of those were partners of IV drug users. I can't find it online, but I know it exists, I and others have referenced it several times, and have yet to be sued.

Remember when Koop thought the best way to combat AIDS was to teach kindergarten kids the details of gay sex ?

I don't have a high opinion of that man, so I better bow out.

 

[donnA]

With all due respect pastor, I don't really care what you think about who I vote for. I don't answer to you or to your sense of what my vote entails. As of now, I plan to vote for Obama. This can change, but I doubt it. I do know that I will not vote for McCain or any other republican this time around.

You are chosing to vote for murdering live birth babies, and legalized gay marriages, for a man who claims homosexuality is not immoral.
Throw out those christian standards we are supose to build our lives around.