Reports of Side Effects Are Rising Rapidly (Covid vax)

[JonC]

Trump got booed for saying it. Last time I checked, Trump is not God.

Yep. He did. But I was referring to Republicans, not God.

 

[Reynolds]

Yep. He did. But I was referring to Republicans, not God.

Bunch or stupid Republicans as well.

Everybody making a big deal about the FDA approval. Means nothing. FDA has a long history of approving medicines they later have to add black boxes to or pull from market completely.

 

[xlsdraw]

Members, please take note and consider the people you listen to on this forum.

I made a few claims about what @Revmitchell said in the past:

1. He claimed Obama Care had "death panels".
2. He claimed there was an agenda to enact martial law.
3. He claimed there was a plan for gun confiscation.

@Revmitchell denied posting those things.

I provided quotes of @Revmitchell posting those things (I had referenced the posts before making the claim).

Then he accused me of lying.

Consider his posts:



Did @Revmitchell post that the Department of Justice is calling for gun confiscation?
He says he did not and I am lying.


Did @Revmitchell post that Obama Care would have "death panels"?

He says he did not and I am lying.


Did @Revmitchell post that the government is planing to enact martial law?
He says he did not and I am lying.

Consider for yourselves the trustworthiness and character of members before considering what they have to say.

Members, please take note and consider the people you listen to on this forum.

JonC, yesterday on another thread, made false accusations about me.

He was challenged by me to produce the evidence of his false accusations against me.
In the fashion that he is currently doing in this thread.

He produced none, because it doesn't exist.

JonC routinely accuses members of lying and routinely demeans members.

So yes members, please consider for yourselves the trustworthiness and character of members before considering what they have to say.

 

[Revmitchell]

Yep you need to be removed you go on rants

Members, please take note and consider the people you listen to on this forum.

JonC, yesterday on another thread, made false accusations about me.

He was challenged by me to produce the evidence of his false accusations against me.
In the fashion that he is currently doing in this thread.

He produced none, because it doesn't exist.

JonC routinely accuses members of lying and routinely demeans members.

So yes members, please consider for yourselves the trustworthiness and character of members before considering what they have to say.

Yep

 

[Wingman68]

Members, please take note and consider the people you listen to on this forum.

I made a few claims about what @Revmitchell said in the past:

1. He claimed Obama Care had "death panels".
2. He claimed there was an agenda to enact martial law.
3. He claimed there was a plan for gun confiscation.

@Revmitchell denied posting those things.

I provided quotes of @Revmitchell posting those things (I had referenced the posts before making the claim).

Then he accused me of lying.

Consider his posts:



Did @Revmitchell post that the Department of Justice is calling for gun confiscation?
He says he did not and I am lying.


Did @Revmitchell post that Obama Care would have "death panels"?

He says he did not and I am lying.


Did @Revmitchell post that the government is planing to enact martial law?
He says he did not and I am lying.

Consider for yourselves the trustworthiness and character of members before considering what they have to say.

This continued rant is an embarrassment to this board.

 

[Use of Time]

Yep you need to be removed you go on rants


Yep

Dude you got called out with receipts. You are just trying to muddy the water. It’s very telling you are ignoring his definitive proof with this bizarre backpedaling. We all literally just saw you eat your words and you are trying to call for his removal because you got embarrassed. Why should someone be removed for proving you wrong?

 

[Use of Time]

This continued rant is an embarrassment to this board.

Why because he backed up his statement?

 

[JonC]

Bunch or stupid Republicans as well.

Everybody making a big deal about the FDA approval. Means nothing. FDA has a long history of approving medicines they later have to add black boxes to or pull from market completely.

Bunch of stupid politicians.

 

[Benjamin]

Yes, there is. We have the virus and several vaccines. Now we will see how this settles. You anti-vaxers say those of us who were vaccinated will be dead in 5 years. Let's wait and see.

I'd die on the hill fight against vaccine mandates and for people's right to reject it but, at the same time believe the vaccine is of great benefit and with very few true side-effects, I mostly wish those who don't want it would just shut up about it and get off these band wagons. Sadly, it appears that some take such glee in satisfying their political narratives that they would hope for the evil of vaccine side-effects to come down on those who take different actions than themselves as they eagerly jump on every negative claim as if it was gospel truth.

 

[JonC]

Ummmm....I am an embarrassment because @Revmitchell is wrong?

Christians should have more integrity.

 

[JonC]

I'd die on the hill fight against vaccine mandates and for people's right to reject it but, at the same time believe the vaccine is of great benefit and with very few true side-effects, I mostly wish those who don't want it would just shut up about it and get off these band wagons. Sadly, it appears that some take such glee in satisfying their political narratives that they would hope for the evil of vaccine side-effects to come down on those who take different actions than themselves as they eagerly jump on every negative claim as if it was gospel truth.

Well said - I absolutely agree.

Let people make their own decisions and let it go.

No member here, or for that matter anywhere, knows what the future will bring.

 

[Revmitchell]

The many various warnings though are talking of over the next 3 to 5 years... before all those deaths will occur. Years away, not days away. And part of the future death issue, is continual yearly booster shots, as they say the damage is cumulative. Earliest I heard was 6 months to a year before people start experiencing that about those vaccines.

I know how we can get rid of covid. Tell the Clintons it’s going to testify against them.

 

[Wingman68]

Ummmm....I am an embarrassment because @Revmitchell is wrong?

Christians should have more integrity.

What another bunch of you know what. You are an embarrassment by your own design. All of the ‘evidence’ posts you came up with had zilch to do with this thread. Who knows how long you toiled just to try to belittle a member. None of your ‘evidence’ proved anything to me except your disdain for a member. You harbor a lot of that, but then turn it ‘Christian’ to make yourself feel justified. You love the last word, so bring it.

 

[Reynolds]

What another bunch of you know what. You are an embarrassment by your own design. All of the ‘evidence’ posts you came up with had zilch to do with this thread. Who knows how long you toiled just to try to belittle a member. None of your ‘evidence’ proved anything to me except your disdain for a member. You harbor a lot of that, but then turn it ‘Christian’ to make yourself feel justified. You love the last word, so bring it.

And from what I have seen Rev Mitch posted truth. The Republicans, thankfully, were able to stop the plans of the Dems Mitchell mentioned.
Not sure about the martial law one. Not too read up on that one.

 

[JonC]

And from what I have seen Rev Mitch posted truth. The Republicans, thankfully, were able to stop the plans of the Dems Mitchell mentioned.
Not sure about the martial law one. Not too read up on that one.

It is not whether or not @Revmitchell 's posts were correct.

The problem is @Revmitchell called me a liar for saying he made those posts (I actually agree a DNC agenda is to disarm citizens, that had it not been stopped "death panels were a real possibility, etc.).

But the fact is @Revmitchell denied making those posts and called me a liar and unfit to moderate for saying otherwise.

That, @Reynolds , is my complaint. The man cannot be trusted - we can all see that those are his posts but he continued denying he made them and attacked me for saying otherwise.

The dishonesty needs to stop. That is what I am saying. Christians can disagree, but when they lack integrity there is a huge problem.


@Revmitchell , @Wingman68 , and @xlsdraw can deny all day long that @Revmitchell never posted those things and attack me for saying otherwise.....but it is right there for all to see.

What ever happened to thise who proclaim to be Christians standing for truth and integrity. That more have not addressed this is disgusting. There is ONE "camp" for Christiabs - even when they disagree- and this is Christ. Too many here have abandoned that calling.

 

[xlsdraw]

It is not whether or not @Revmitchell 's posts were correct.

The problem is @Revmitchell called me a liar for saying he made those posts (I actually agree a DNC agenda is to disarm citizens, that had it not been stopped "death panels were a real possibility, etc.).

But the fact is @Revmitchell denied making those posts and called me a liar and unfit to moderate for saying otherwise.

That, @Reynolds , is my complaint. The man cannot be trusted - we can all see that those are his posts but he continued denying he made them and attacked me for saying otherwise.

The dishonesty needs to stop. That is what I am saying. Christians can disagree, but when they lack integrity there is a huge problem.


@Revmitchell , @Wingman68 , and @xlsdraw can deny all day long that @Revmitchell never posted those things and attack me for saying otherwise.....but it is right there for all to see.

What ever happened to thise who proclaim to be Christians standing for truth and integrity. That more have not addressed this is disgusting. There is ONE "camp" for Christiabs - even when they disagree- and this is Christ. Too many here have abandoned that calling.

You have made false accusations against me. You have no ground to call another a liar.

 

[JonC]

You have made false accusations against me. You have no ground to call another a liar.

One sin does not negate another.

I stand by my posts about you. Your posts ARE aimed at persuading others from being vaccinated.

 

[xlsdraw]

One sin does not negate another.

I stand by my posts about you. Your posts ARE aimed at persuading others from being vaccinated.

That is another lie. I have believed the whole time, and continue to, that every person should have the right to choose whether or not to take the vaccines. Nothing more. And there is absolutely zero evidence to the contrary. It's purely your fabrication.

And I agree with several members that your behavior should disqualify you from being a Moderator on a Baptist forum.

 

[JonC]

That is another lie. I have believed the whole time, and continue to, that every person should have the right to choose whether or not to take the vaccines. Nothing more. And there is absolutely zero evidence to the contrary. It's purely your fabrication.

And I agree with several members that your behavior should disqualify you from being a Moderator on a Baptist forum.

I'm not talking about what you believe or do not believe. Unlike you, @Revmitchell, and @Wingman68 I am addressing what was actually posted, not what you believe or do not believe. Your opinions are your own....frankly, I don't care.

But your posts and the articles you post are aimed at persuading others from getting vaccinated.

Here is how we can tell -

I post about people who have died of covid and who have died of the vaccinations. That way people know my posts are not aimed at persuading them either way - but about the risks (and benefits) that should be considered.

Your posts (and links) are specifically addressed towards persuading people not to be vaccinated.

You cannot get around that fact. We all can read your posts. They ARE the evidence.

And that is fine. You can do that. Just own it and stop making false accusations against people who point it out.

 

[JonC]

That is another lie. I have believed the whole time, and continue to, that every person should have the right to choose whether or not to take the vaccines. Nothing more. And there is absolutely zero evidence to the contrary. It's purely your fabrication.

And I agree with several members that your behavior should disqualify you from being a Moderator on a Baptist forum.

Again, I am not talking about what you believe or do not believe. I do not know you.

I just said that your posts are aimed at persuading people from not being vaccinated.

I stand by that assessment.

That does not disqualify me from anything.

I also stand by my claim that @Revmitchell posted those things he posted. That is not a lie, but being honest.

You can read his posts. If there is a reason you believe he did not write them then please feel free to express that reason. But they are right there. @Revmitchell denies they are his posts . Maybe he left his computer open and his wife made them. Maybe he shares his account. But that does not change the fact they were written under the account @Revmitchell . And that certainly does not make me a liar.