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Reports of Side Effects Are Rising Rapidly (Covid vax)

Revmitchell

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Reports of Side Effects Are Rising Rapidly
Side effects from the mRNA genetic therapies used to create novel “vaccines” are inevitable. The genetic material effectively turns your cells into bioreactors16 that turn out viral proteins to incite an immune response. Historical and preliminary evidence shows there are short and long-term side effects.

As Judy Mikovits, Ph.D., explains in her interview featured in “How COVID-19 ‘Vaccines’ May Destroy the Lives of Millions,” the mRNA is synthetic, which the body sees as “non-self.” This can trigger the production of autoantibodies to attack your own tissues.

Commonly reported side effects in those who have received the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines have included symptoms that are suggestive of neurological damage.

Since the vaccines began being distributed some of the side effects have included severe allergic reactions including anaphylaxis,17,18,19 seizures and convulsions,20,21 persistent headache and migraine,22 paralysis23 and sudden death within hours or days.24,25,26,27


The Hushed Long-Term Risks of COVID-19 Vaccines
 

Reynolds

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Reports of Side Effects Are Rising Rapidly
Side effects from the mRNA genetic therapies used to create novel “vaccines” are inevitable. The genetic material effectively turns your cells into bioreactors16 that turn out viral proteins to incite an immune response. Historical and preliminary evidence shows there are short and long-term side effects.

As Judy Mikovits, Ph.D., explains in her interview featured in “How COVID-19 ‘Vaccines’ May Destroy the Lives of Millions,” the mRNA is synthetic, which the body sees as “non-self.” This can trigger the production of autoantibodies to attack your own tissues.

Commonly reported side effects in those who have received the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines have included symptoms that are suggestive of neurological damage.

Since the vaccines began being distributed some of the side effects have included severe allergic reactions including anaphylaxis,17,18,19 seizures and convulsions,20,21 persistent headache and migraine,22 paralysis23 and sudden death within hours or days.24,25,26,27


The Hushed Long-Term Risks of COVID-19 Vaccines
If they tell the truth, people won't get the vaccine against the 99.7% survivable virus.
 

JonC

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If they tell the truth, people won't get the vaccine against the 99.7% survivable virus.
Time will tell. It's like a game show....Last Men Standing :Wink

Until then it is just people guessing the date Christ will return. People want to know what they cannot yet know, so they guess.
 

Andre

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As Judy Mikovits, Ph.D., explains in her interview featured in “How COVID-19 ‘Vaccines’ May Destroy the Lives of Millions,” the mRNA is synthetic, which the body sees as “non-self.” This can trigger the production of autoantibodies to attack your own tissues.
Judy Mikovits is not a credible source:

Judy Anne Mikovits (born 1957 or 1958) is an American former research scientist who is known for her discredited medical claims, such as that murine endogenous retroviruses are linked to chronic fatigue syndrome. As an outgrowth of these claims, she has engaged in anti-vaccination activism, promoted conspiracy theories, and been accused of scientific misconduct. She has made false claims about vaccines, COVID-19, and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), among others.
 

Andre

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Since the vaccines began being distributed some of the side effects have included severe allergic reactions including anaphylaxis,17,18,19 seizures and convulsions,20,21 persistent headache and migraine,22 paralysis23 and sudden death within hours or days.24,25,26,27
How many people have experienced sudden death that can be attributed to the vaccine? I guarantee the number is tiny.

I trust I need not state the obvious - with millions and millions of people getting the vaccine, obviously some of these people will die within a few days of the vaccine for unrelated reasons. Old age, for example.
 

Andre

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If they tell the truth, people won't get the vaccine against the 99.7% survivable virus.
This 99.7% figure is misleading. It sounds like a reassuringly large number, but consider this: Imagine that 99.7% of airplanes do not crash. Would you get in a plane? Not likely - with such a rate, nearly 180,000 people will die in plane crashes each day.

No one would get near an airplane - a survival rate of 99.7 is still way too low for our normal standards of safety.

Or take wingsuit flying - a sport that is considered to be extremely dangerous: 99.8 % of jumps are "safe" - no severe injury.

Would anyone say that wingsuit flying is not dangerous? Of course not - we consider wingsuit flyers to be death-defying daredevils.

And yet it is basically just as safe as getting covid.

The "it's 99.7 survivable" argument in respect to covid is a trick - this is still way too high a risk by our normal standards of what constitutes an acceptable risk.
 

canadyjd

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This 99.7% figure is misleading. It sounds like a reassuringly large number, but consider this: Imagine that 99.7% of airplanes do not crash. Would you get in a plane? Not likely - with such a rate, nearly 180,000 people will die in plane crashes each day.

No one would get near an airplane - a survival rate of 99.7 is still way too low for our normal standards of safety.

Or take wingsuit flying - a sport that is considered to be extremely dangerous: 99.8 % of jumps are "safe" - no severe injury.

Would anyone say that wingsuit flying is not dangerous? Of course not - we consider wingsuit flyers to be death-defying daredevils.

And yet it is basically just as safe as getting covid.

The "it's 99.7 survivable" argument in respect to covid is a trick - this is still way too high a risk by our normal standards of what constitutes an acceptable risk.
The 99.7% survival rate is not a trick. The vaccines are only 95% effective at best.

The elderly and people with pre-existing conditions certainly benefit. But to mandate a vaccine that is 95% effective for a virus that has a survival rate of 99.7% does not make sense scientifically.

peace to you
 

Andre

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The elderly and people with pre-existing conditions certainly benefit. But to mandate a vaccine that is 95% effective for a virus that has a survival rate of 99.7% does not make sense scientifically.

peace to you
No. It clearly does make sense - again, comparing these 2 numbers the way you are doing is misleading.

As I have shown, a survival rate of 99.7% is still way too low as assessed against our normal standards for risk-taking - almost everyone would refuse to go wingsuit flying because it is too dangerous. And yet, the rate of death for wingsuit flying is lower (slightly) than for covid.

Likewise, almost everyone would be scared to fly if your chance of surviving the trip was 99.7% - that is still way too high a risk when your life is on the line.

What makes no sense is to refuse a vaccine whose benefits in terms of preventing severe illness and death clearly outweigh its risks.
 

canadyjd

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No. It clearly does make sense - again, comparing these 2 numbers the way you are doing is misleading.

As I have shown, a survival rate of 99.7% is still way too low as assessed against our normal standards for risk-taking - almost everyone would refuse to go wingsuit flying because it is too dangerous. And yet, the rate of death for wingsuit flying is lower (slightly) than for covid.

Likewise, almost everyone would be scared to fly if your chance of surviving the trip was 99.7% - that is still way too high a risk when your life is on the line.

What makes no sense is to refuse a vaccine whose benefits in terms of preventing severe illness and death clearly outweigh its risks.
Your comparisons of getting a disease to air travel or extreme sports is nonsense.

Every activity has risks. Living has risks.

You may believe refusing this medical procedure makes no sense, and perhaps you are right. But Americans used to have the option to make those decisions without the government forcing it on us.

We could eliminate tens of thousands of automobile accident fatalities every year by lowering the speed limit to 30 mph on the highway and 20mph in all cities and require all occupants to wear helmets while in a vehicle. Why not mandate that.

We could eliminate hundreds of thousands of health related deaths every year by shutting down all fast food restaurants and forcing all overweight people to submit to strict government over site of their dit and exercise routines. Why not mandate that.

peace to you
 

Scott Downey

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How many people have experienced sudden death that can be attributed to the vaccine? I guarantee the number is tiny.

I trust I need not state the obvious - with millions and millions of people getting the vaccine, obviously some of these people will die within a few days of the vaccine for unrelated reasons. Old age, for example.
The many various warnings though are talking of over the next 3 to 5 years... before all those deaths will occur. Years away, not days away. And part of the future death issue, is continual yearly booster shots, as they say the damage is cumulative. Earliest I heard was 6 months to a year before people start experiencing that about those vaccines.
 

Jack Hudson

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We did not come up with the vaccines.

Trump was in contact with the Galactic Federation. The virus is of alien origin so we should not be surprised Trump had to rely on aliens for a solution.

Former Israeli space chief says aliens exist, and Trump knows about it
Just joined here. I see you are a moderator. Your quote of F.D. Maurice tells me a lot about you. So if I'm an atheist, then I'm more likely to be right? Am I perhaps missing your sarcasm in quoting him?

Wow, I thought this was a Christian Forum. I am a follower of Jesus, not a follower of Trump.

Rather than intelligent exchange of ideas, I could close my eyes to the site reading you and think I was at Politico, The Hill, Breitbart, Fox News, along with the many other sites where people with nothing better to do just pound each other all day long.

You have my sympathies.
 
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JonC

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Just joined here. I see you are a moderator. Your quote of F.D. Maurice tells me a lot about you. So if I'm an atheist, then I'm more likely to be right? Am I perhaps missing your sarcasm in quoting him?

Wow, I thought this was a Christian Forum. I am a follower of Jesus, not a follower of Trump.
No. Your religion would not make you less or more right when it comes to science. When I send a car to a mechanic I prefer the best skilled mechanic, regardless of religion.

And yes, perhaps there is a bit f sarcasm you are missing.

I am also a follower of Jesus. I am not sure, but have to ask if your comment is implying I do not follow Jesus or that I follow Trump (both would be misunderstandings on your part).

President Trump and President Biden are both pro-vaccine. I would not trust either with my health.
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Jack Hudson

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I wouldn't trust them as well.

However as a moderator here, ( and remember I'm new here) I was wondering why If you are born again and a follower of Jesus, why are you quoting a "Christian Socialist" rather than Christ? Would you perceive me as one of those who are not taking up the cause of social justice and have a truncated version of The Gospel?

Per the vaccines the following are the experiences of those around me. I have 2 mother inlaws (my wife of 36 years is adopted) one 89 and the other 74. Both got it, and both are fine with no breakthrough infections. Another neighbor age 60 is fine after getting it 3 months ago. Another neighbor of 60 was sick with fever and such after his first shot, got well fast and is fine after being fully vaccinated.

My wife's lifelong friend is a private school teacher of 25 years in the Maryland school system and got it around 6 months ago. Had vertigo and vomiting that stood with her for over a week. Saw an ear nose and throat doctor. He told her he's had several patients with a similar reaction who lost their hearing.

Interesting link from Politico today, more problems with the CDCs messaging. None of it has been a confidence booster Holes in reporting of breakthrough Covid cases hamper CDC response
 
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JonC

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I wouldn't trust them as well.

However as a moderator here, I'm wondering why If you are born again and a follower of Jesus, why are you quoting a "Christian Socialist" rather than Christ? Would you perceive me as one of those who are not taking up the cause of social justice and have a truncated version of The Gospel?
Well, because Jesus didn't say anything about where the covid virus originated or about Trump's "Warp speed" program.

I am not taking up a version of the social gospel. The anti-vax people on this board has declared that the anti-vax agenda is divinely inspired. That is a social gospel.

I'm just posting along their lines. It is sarcasm.

Since you and I do not know one another:

MY views of the virus and vaccines -

The covid virus can be dangerous. The vaccine has a potential to help but also carries risks. People should weigh the potential benefits and risks of a vaccine against the risks associated with the virus and make their own decisions regarding their health. There should be no agenda to persuade or disuade people from making their own decisions and their decisions should be respected.


My view of misinformation:

Christians who spread misinformation are guilty of bearing a false witness. Before posting articles should be researched for accuracy. Once posted the member is lending their voice to what is posted. They do not escape responsibility simply because they sourced the information from another.

My political view:

Secular politics are powers of this World. Christians are called to do Kingdom work and be sojourner during their time in this world - IN the World, NOT of the World.

I do not care about politics. I do not support a political party. I believe our voice should be Christ and not a political party.

If you have any questions about what I believe then please feel free to ask....here or via pm.
 

Van

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Someone post COVID 19 is 99.7% survivable. So if 1000 people get it, 3 might die. Not a big deal, unless you are one of the three. Now if 10 million people get it, then thousands would be expected to die, mostly those of the unvaccinated variety.
 

Jack Hudson

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Well I certainly appreciate you sharing your views Jon, it turns out we are in 100% agreement on every point.

And while that's easy to digest since we are in agreement, it's the vitriol on the internet these days rather than the intelligent debate/exchange of ideas that has kept me completely away from posting in message boards etc.

I have just as much distaste for those places where people are all in full agreement. Each side perceives the other as evil with name calling. How sad what we've become.

I thought I was running into the same thing here after reading only 2 of your comments without the others. Text and lack of research.......poor judgement on my part in capturing your true sentiment.
 

Jack Hudson

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Someone post COVID 19 is 99.7% survivable. So if 1000 people get it, 3 might die. Not a big deal, unless you are one of the three. Now if 10 million people get it, then thousands would be expected to die, mostly those of the unvaccinated variety.

Reminds me on the debate over healthcare. It's easy to say screw the other guy who doesn't have it until you lose yours. How we get to where everyone has it is complicated. But I digress :)
 

Van

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Reminds me on the debate over healthcare. It's easy to say screw the other guy who doesn't have it until you lose yours. How we get to where everyone has it is complicated. But I digress :)
Yes, the issue is how much risk should we take to provide the freedom for others to put us at risk. For example, an employer might say everyone who works in my shop must be vaccinated so as to minimize the risk of my shop shutdown due to COVID and quarantine. So yes, it is complicated...
 

Reynolds

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This 99.7% figure is misleading. It sounds like a reassuringly large number, but consider this: Imagine that 99.7% of airplanes do not crash. Would you get in a plane? Not likely - with such a rate, nearly 180,000 people will die in plane crashes each day.

No one would get near an airplane - a survival rate of 99.7 is still way too low for our normal standards of safety.

Or take wingsuit flying - a sport that is considered to be extremely dangerous: 99.8 % of jumps are "safe" - no severe injury.

Would anyone say that wingsuit flying is not dangerous? Of course not - we consider wingsuit flyers to be death-defying daredevils.

And yet it is basically just as safe as getting covid.

The "it's 99.7 survivable" argument in respect to covid is a trick - this is still way too high a risk by our normal standards of what constitutes an acceptable risk.
Your argument is compelling if there is a 100% safe alternative.
Vaccine is not 100% safe and does not guarantee 100% survival from the virus.
Time will tell what the actual numbers will be.
My very pro-vax doctor admitted to me that he is shocked at how quickly the virus broke through this vaccine.
This vaccine definitely alters the immune system of some in a negative way. Doc told me he is seeing a lot of vaccinated adults with Mollescum.
Non-immuno compromised adults do not get Mollescum. Also said he is seeing a super high rate of shingles in the Covid vaxed. Had a vaxed 23 year old with shingles last month.

Just look at both sides. Don't drink either sides Kool Aid.
 
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