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Rev. 9:10: Historical Facts vs. Futurist Fiction

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robycop3 said:
Not any more than I'd know an anti-gravity machine if I saw one, or my great-grandpa, a Civil war vet, would've known what a stealth bomber was if he'd seen one.
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:LaughI think he would know it wasn't a creature.

It still doesn't change the fact you're not taking the passage literally. :Thumbsup But instead of ascribing the use of symbol to the inspired and intelligent utilization of metaphor, you ascribe it to ignorance and superstition.

You didn't mean to, but you just commended the Amillennial view as superior--and more literal. :Whistling

It's a vision. John saw monstrous locusts.
 
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Squire Robertsson

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Aaron said:
Isn't this what Darwinists say of Moses? He was no Einstein, so how else could he describe Creation?
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Yes, but I'm not trying to be more specific than Scripture. What's being written about could very easily be helicopters. Or it couldn't. Either way, it's not fiction.
 
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Aaron said:
It still doesn't change the fact you're not taking the passage literally.
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...bingo... you didn't know? 'Dispy privilege', they get to cherry pick which passages are literal and which aren't...
 
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  • Rev. 9:10 "They had tails with stingers, like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months."

    Historical fact: the length of time that Jerusalem was under siege by the Roman armies was 5 months. From April to August. Also, the Romans used ballistic weapons that were nicknamed "stingers"and had a specific ballistic weapon called a Scorpion.

  • One can verify this with Josephus and Ussher (both as to the terminology and the dates).
    Once again, it can be proven that the entire purpose of Revelation has been misconstrued to accommodate a futurist, not a historical fulfillment. It was certainly future fulfillment as far as John's readers were concerned, but it is long past from our perspective.
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...and all the Roman Catholic priests breathed a sigh of relief and said "amen".
 
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Although I've been a Preterist for several years, I didn't know that. Quite interesting, and that clearly supports the Preterist position. And I'd always thought Stingers were just Air Defense Artillery weapons☺
 
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Lodic said:
Although I've been a Preterist for several years, I didn't know that. Quite interesting, and that clearly supports the Preterist position. And I'd always thought Stingers were just Air Defense Artillery weapons☺
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The Romans forgot to upgrade to the full prophecy version which allowed flight.
 
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Lodic said:
Although I've been a Preterist for several years, I didn't know that. Quite interesting, and that clearly supports the Preterist position. And I'd always thought Stingers were just Air Defense Artillery weapons☺
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Actually, it refutes the pret hooey that much more.
 
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